Gay Marriage: Why I Say Yes

[Kitty_Chan]

I did an opinion paper at school on this and I want other people's opinion.

I think it is right because if you truly love someone, man or woman, why shouldn't you be allowed to be with them? Yes, many teens find it 'gross' or 'immorale' or anything else, but what's wrong with it?

Do you know how much pain homosexuals go through? Always having people make fun of them, treat them horribly, and put them down. To have another human being dislike another just because of their sexual interest is not right!

All citizens of the U.S. were giving the rights to Pursuit of Happiness. Why are homosexuals treated differently? Are they not Americans? Do they not deserve rights just as everyone else? Who are we to decide whom they should love?

Why can't people just mind their own business?!?

[protector13]

I did an opinion paper at school on this and I want other people's opinion.

I think it is right because if you truly love someone, man or woman, why shouldn't you be allowed to be with them? Yes, many teens find it 'gross' or 'immorale' or anything else, but what's wrong with it?

Do you know how much pain homosexuals go through? Always having people make fun of them, treat them horribly, and put them down. To have another human being dislike another just because of their sexual interest is not right!

All citizens of the U.S. were giving the rights to Pursuit of Happiness. Why are homosexuals treated differently? Are they not Americans? Do they not deserve rights just as everyone else? Who are we to decide whom they should love?

Why can't people just mind their own business?!?

i suport gay marrage

[Kyrin]

My view is pretty much, "Don't like gay marriage? Then don't get one and shut the fu.ck up."

[priestess94]

soo true i mean gay guys are really great friends if your a girl cus i mean they just rock there isnt really anyway to explain them as friends they just rock girls if you are a girl its kinda weird but my mom had a friend that was gay (it was a girl) ((just so ya know) and she said nothing happend they were friends i mean come on they arent aliens they are just people that just happen to like the same sex

[Kitty_Chan]

i suport gay marrage

^_^

I think it's perfectly normal. I mean, i'm not gay myself, but i've seen gay kids at my school and in public. My whole family supports it, we even joined this group called 'Promo' that supports it as well.
actually, i'm wearing a wrsit band of it right now. i wanted to see what kids at my school thought

[Nickoli]

I agree with Kyrin. I support it completely, because, well, its me! I'm teh lesbian. If you don't like gay marrage, don't keep sticking your nose in discussions about it.

[Kitty_Chan]

Exactly. it's actually no one's business really, who you date or like or your sexual preference.

[Guendolen_Sama]

Precisely! That's exactly how I feel. It's not my thing, but I mean, you love who you love. Providing both people are consenting and happy, does it really matter what their genders are? No. It's no one's business but their own anyway. Relationships are a private thing, and should not be regulated by the government. The bans are in effect a form of discrimination, and go directly against this country's Constitution. Those who want to ban this ought to be ashamed of themselves. How can allowing more people to marry "damage the institution of marriage" or whatever it is that they say? I say it can only help.

[Kyrin]

Precisely! That's exactly how I feel. It's not my thing, but I mean, you love who you love. Providing both people are consenting and happy, does it really matter what their genders are? No. It's no one's business but their own anyway. Relationships are a private thing, and should not be regulated by the government. The bans are in effect a form of discrimination, and go directly against this country's Constitution. Those who want to ban this ought to be ashamed of themselves. How can allowing more people to marry "damage the institution of marriage" or whatever it is that they say? I say it can only help.

I agree with the unconstitutionality of it you mentioned. I'm ashamed to say that one of the leaders of the opposition and the author of the PATRIOT act is my representative in the House. He gave a talk at my school and we pretty much informed him that he's a racist and a homophobe.

[Guendolen_Sama]

**applauds** Good for you guys! I'm glad to hear you pulled that off.

[Kyrin]

**applauds** Good for you guys! I'm glad to hear you pulled that off.

Sensenbrenner was so mad at us, he turned purple. We have a resident communist girl who is kind of annoying cuz she always references the Communist Manifesto, but she got into a rather long argument with him about gay rights that ended in him saying "It's just wrong." It's safe to say he won't be coming back and if my vote counts next fall, he won't be back in office.

[Guendolen_Sama]

Wow. Count me impressed. Turned him purple! And every vote counts. That's why it's so important to get yourself out to the polls. If nothing else, you need to make your voice heard. And if you don't vote when you can, you have no right to complain when things you don't like the state of the country.

[Kyrin]

Wow. Count me impressed. Turned him purple! And every vote counts. That's why it's so important to get yourself out to the polls. If nothing else, you need to make your voice heard. And if you don't vote when you can, you have no right to complain when things you don't like the state of the country.

For sure. I've been thinking of writing a letter to him, mostly to make him blah at my liberal agenda hahaha

His description of what he wanted for the border fence was horrible...

[Guendolen_Sama]

Go for it. Don't have anything to lose, do you? :) Good to met a fellow crazy hippie-liberal type. ;)

[Kyrin]

Go for it. Don't have anything to lose, do you? :) Good to met a fellow crazy hippie-liberal type. ;)

No, I don't! I'll do it when I have time- I have a backlog of homework and letters to write. And it is for sure hahaha

[Guendolen_Sama]

Okay, yeah, homework and what not does come first. If all else fails, it could always be a summer project for you. :)

[Kyrin]

Okay, yeah, homework and what not does come first. If all else fails, it could always be a summer project for you. :)

For sure. I'll have plenty of time this summer- and I'll be able to explain a better plan for immigration better, since I'm working the the mostly Mexican section of the city answering phones in spanish for my dad's work- I'm not Mexican, I just speak spanish pretty well- and I'll be able to talk to people down there about what they think should be done.

[Guendolen_Sama]

Wow! That's great! I took Spanish in high school, but I haven't used it in so many years that I'm woefully rusty. If you can use something like that to get first-hand information to back up your ideas, so much the better. The more definitive evidence you have, the harder it is for you to be refuted.

[Kyrin]

Wow! That's great! I took Spanish in high school, but I haven't used it in so many years that I'm woefully rusty. If you can use something like that to get first-hand information to back up your ideas, so much the better. The more definitive evidence you have, the harder it is for you to be refuted.

Sí, mi profesora era un illegal immigrant. She came from Costa Rica, but got her citizenship a few weeks ago- she's had a green card since she was 18 I think. She spent like 2 weeks teaching us about the issue- granted, it was hopelessly biased, but the smarter people were able to see through that and get the info they needed to know to make a decision on where they stood. Puedo hablar en español si quieres que practicar hahaha))

[Guendolen_Sama]

Ah, yes. I can see where that would come from.... On all accounts. Well, you got a lot of practice, if nothing else. And if it'll help you in the long run, so much the better.

[Kyrin]

Ah, yes. I can see where that would come from.... On all accounts. Well, you got a lot of practice, if nothing else. And if it'll help you in the long run, so much the better.

Yep. I love languages, so if you wanna practice any language on me, just start speaking in it, like if you wanted to practice spanish again or something. I'm always up for picking up some of a new one as well.

[Pink Angel]

i suport gay marrage

Same here!!!

[unloved_forever]

I support gay marraige.
People shouldn't have a problem with that. Gay people don't tend to have a problem with hetrosexual marraiges/relationships, so why do people have a problem when it's the other way around!

[Kitty_Chan]

that's a really good point. people always make such a bid deal over who someone dates or likes, especially in my school

[Caoko]

Whoo, another gay marriage thread~.

You know, homophobes are just.. stupid. Especially the ones that are supposidly Christian. God says to love everyone. So, you should love everyone, even if they're gay.

People are born gay. There's no choice in the matter. Homophobia is similar to racism in the sense that someone cannot change that part about that. You can't change your skin color, and you can't change your feelings. People can sure as hell love the same sex. It's perfectly normal. I don't see why society can't seem to accept that. Homosexuals are always going to be around. Even if you kill them all off, another one is going to be born. There's no stopping that.

[Kitty_Chan]

Whoo, another gay marriage thread~.

You know, homophobes are just.. stupid. Especially the ones that are supposidly Christian. God says to love everyone. So, you should love everyone, even if they're gay.

People are born gay. There's no choice in the matter. Homophobia is similar to racism in the sense that someone cannot change that part about that. You can't change your skin color, and you can't change your feelings. People can sure as hell love the same sex. It's perfectly normal. I don't see why society can't seem to accept that. Homosexuals are always going to be around. Even if you kill them all off, another one is going to be born. There's no stopping that.


That's so true. I absolutely hate it when someone says that people can CHOOSE to be gay. It's like saying that you can CHOOSE to be white, black, girl, boy, animal, WHATEVER! You can't choose who you are, it's the way God intended it to be

[twilightqueen13]

I support Gay Marrige. I mean why should anyone care about who someone else is marrying. I mean I hear people insult people and call them Gay or a "Lesbo" all the time. It shouldn't matter! And I hear you on how supposed Christians say that it's wrong. Jesus said to love God and to love your neighbor. Not to critisize their sexual interest. That's all I have to say.

[teen_with_a_cello]

I support gay marrige all the way! i mean what did gay people ever do to u? it is not like it is going to make a difference in your life if they are married to some one of the same sex! & a good point my mom made was you know how straight people think it is so gross to see gay people kissing well imagine how they feel there are guys & girls kissing & stuff all over the place!

[Kitty_Chan]

I support gay marrige all the way! i mean what did gay people ever do to u? it is not like it is going to make a difference in your life if they are married to some one of the same sex! & a good point my mom made was you know how straight people think it is so gross to see gay people kissing well imagine how they feel there are guys & girls kissing & stuff all over the place!

i know! i totally agree. That's how some homosexuals may feel about heteroes. if they aren't allowed to do stuff like that, why are straight people? personally, i think ot's gross to see ANYONE making out in public

[teen_with_a_cello]

i know! i totally agree. That's how some homosexuals may feel about heteroes. if they aren't allowed to do stuff like that, why are straight people? personally, i think ot's gross to see ANYONE making out in public

i didn't really mean in public ya that is really gross but like in movies it seems the is some scene with some guy & girl kissing!

[Caoko]

I hate seeing straight people kiss in movies. Ugh, horrible. 'Cause the guy is always hot, y'know? So, I wish he was gay...
But, yeah, you make a good point. Well, your mom does.
Honestly, we (homosexuals) should have the same rights as straight people do.
But, no. We're different in the fact that we like the same sex, so we get 'bashed' and ridiculed for it. You don't see me walking up to some straight guy and saying, "Straight people are gross." And then laugh, thinking it's funny. No. It's not funny. It's like making fun of someone for having a disorder or something. They can't do anything about it.
Someone people probably do choose to be gay, but, the majority doesn't have a choice.
I especially hte it when someone doesn't want to be gay. I mean, honestly, you can't change anything about it. So, why try? Just accept and love yourself. And it's just even worse when people make fun of them. That could drive a person to suicide or something along those lines.
Some people just don't see the consequences of their actions. They just say whatever the hell is on their minds, without having a second thought about it. Pisses me off.

[Kitty_Chan]

I hate seeing straight people kiss in movies. Ugh, horrible. 'Cause the guy is always hot, y'know? So, I wish he was gay...
But, yeah, you make a good point. Well, your mom does.
Honestly, we (homosexuals) should have the same rights as straight people do.
But, no. We're different in the fact that we like the same sex, so we get 'bashed' and ridiculed for it. You don't see me walking up to some straight guy and saying, "Straight people are gross." And then laugh, thinking it's funny. No. It's not funny. It's like making fun of someone for having a disorder or something. They can't do anything about it.
Someone people probably do choose to be gay, but, the majority doesn't have a choice.
I especially hte it when someone doesn't want to be gay. I mean, honestly, you can't change anything about it. So, why try? Just accept and love yourself. And it's just even worse when people make fun of them. That could drive a person to suicide or something along those lines.
Some people just don't see the consequences of their actions. They just say whatever the hell is on their minds, without having a second thought about it. Pisses me off.


i really agree with you.
There is this kid at my school named Quinton and I seriously want to beat the **** out of him. he's always making fun of homosexuals and autistic kids. I'm seriously gonna kick his ass one of these days, i swear it.
And yeah, i agree with you on the loving themselves part. That is how everyone should be. I mean, a lot of people commit suicide because they hate themselves. And more than half the time, it's when others make fun of them

[Caoko]

i really agree with you.
There is this kid at my school named Quinton and I seriously want to beat the **** out of him. he's always making fun of homosexuals and autistic kids. I'm seriously gonna kick his ass one of these days, i swear it.
And yeah, i agree with you on the loving themselves part. That is how everyone should be. I mean, a lot of people commit suicide because they hate themselves. And more than half the time, it's when others make fun of them

Oh my god. Kick his ass for me, please?
Very true. People always make fun of other people. Sometimes it's just play, but other times it isn't. At all. At first, it's 'fine', because, it's just once. But then once people start repeating it, it starts getting just, worse, and wrecks havok on that person's life.

[Kitty_Chan]

Oh my god. Kick his ass for me, please?
Very true. People always make fun of other people. Sometimes it's just play, but other times it isn't. At all. At first, it's 'fine', because, it's just once. But then once people start repeating it, it starts getting just, worse, and wrecks havok on that person's life.

don't worry. i'll kick his ass street style and then i'll have my black belt friend help me out. We can't stand him
I know. This boy gets teased all the time. He's not gay, but it's still sad.
But, there IS the gay kid named Dui. He's so flipping popular. i'm glad he's not teased, tho

[Caoko]

don't worry. i'll kick his ass street style and then i'll have my black belt friend help me out. We can't stand him
I know. This boy gets teased all the time. He's not gay, but it's still sad.
But, there IS the gay kid named Dui. He's so flipping popular. i'm glad he's not teased, tho

Friends with black belts always come in handy.
I hate when people make fun of someone else that isn't what they're making fun of them about. Like, yeah, the kid that isn't gay but still gets made fun of it for it.

[Kitty_Chan]

Friends with black belts always come in handy.
I hate when people make fun of someone else that isn't what they're making fun of them about. Like, yeah, the kid that isn't gay but still gets made fun of it for it.

Yep.
I do, too. Mainly because all my siblings have been made fun of and teased. My bro even got into a fight. 'course, he didn't hurt anyone, but he got suspended.

[Caoko]

Yep.
I do, too. Mainly because all my siblings have been made fun of and teased. My bro even got into a fight. 'course, he didn't hurt anyone, but he got suspended.

That's horrible! I hate it when people get suspended or expelled because someone else set them off. I hate it even more, when the person that set them off doesn't get in trouble.

[Kitty_Chan]

That's horrible! I hate it when people get suspended or expelled because someone else set them off. I hate it even more, when the person that set them off doesn't get in trouble.

i know. it totally pissed my mom off
it happened in Utah (The Hell of the U.S.) So we moved. But now, my bro's in college.

[Caoko]

i know. it totally pissed my mom off
it happened in Utah (The Hell of the U.S.) So we moved. But now, my bro's in college.

You know, I've never been to Utah.
And, ugh, I'm about to go to college. Yay me.

I'm so glad I'm like, never made fun of. Mostly because I've got some... damn tough friends. >:|

[Kitty_Chan]

You know, I've never been to Utah.
And, ugh, I'm about to go to college. Yay me.

I'm so glad I'm like, never made fun of. Mostly because I've got some... damn tough friends. >:|

It SUCKS!!!! It's the Morman state. and we're Christian. It was aweful
College? I'm only going to be a sophmore! I love high school, tho.

[Caoko]

It SUCKS!!!! It's the Morman state. and we're Christian. It was aweful
College? I'm only going to be a sophmore! I love high school, tho.

Oh, that's horrible. Least you're outta there now.
Yup. College... I'ma miss High School.

[Kitty_Chan]

Oh, that's horrible. Least you're outta there now.
Yup. College... I'ma miss High School.

me, too. i had a lot of friends there, tho. i've lost touch with them. *sighs*

[Caoko]

me, too. i had a lot of friends there, tho. i've lost touch with them. *sighs*

That's the horrible part of moving. I've moved a few times way back when. Don't talk to a buncha my friends no more.

[Kitty_Chan]

That's the horrible part of moving. I've moved a few times way back when. Don't talk to a buncha my friends no more.

yeah... it's only been four years, tho. and thru the first, i still talked with 'em. but they never wrote back. :'(

[Kyrin]

Whoo, another gay marriage thread~.

You know, homophobes are just.. stupid. Especially the ones that are supposidly Christian. God says to love everyone. So, you should love everyone, even if they're gay.

People are born gay. There's no choice in the matter. Homophobia is similar to racism in the sense that someone cannot change that part about that. You can't change your skin color, and you can't change your feelings. People can sure as hell love the same sex. It's perfectly normal. I don't see why society can't seem to accept that. Homosexuals are always going to be around. Even if you kill them all off, another one is going to be born. There's no stopping that.

Interesting you mention that- last night I was being told by a bible-belt Christian than homosexuals should be stoned cuz that's what they do in the Bible. Needless to say, I got a mod to shut down the thread.

[Caoko]

yeah... it's only been four years, tho. and thru the first, i still talked with 'em. but they never wrote back. :'(

Yeah. I hate when that happens. Then you don't know if they moved or what, so you can't contact them and stuff.

[Kitty_Chan]

Interesting you mention that- last night I was being told by a bible-belt Christian than homosexuals should be stoned cuz that's what they do in the Bible. Needless to say, I got a mod to shut down the thread.

really??? Is it just closed? I wanna read it to see the idiot's 'reason'

[Caoko]

Interesting you mention that- last night I was being told by a bible-belt Christian than homosexuals should be stoned cuz that's what they do in the Bible. Needless to say, I got a mod to shut down the thread.

That's horrible! I can't believe people do that. Honestly. They should love everyone. Or just not say anything about it.

[teen_with_a_cello]

That's horrible! I can't believe people do that. Honestly. They should love everyone. Or just not say anything about it.

i don't think that is possible for some people!

[Caoko]

i don't think that is possible for some people!

I know, but I couldn't think of anything else to say,

[Kyrin]

really??? Is it just closed? I wanna read it to see the idiot's 'reason'

I got the whole thing deleted- Nickoli and I were more disgusted than we ever have been. And the person said that they were a Christian.

[Kitty_Chan]

lol, its kinda true. i mean, you don't have to love them, but you shouldn't hate them either, right? Hate is evil and wrong. I don't really hate anyone, i just dislike them,

[teen_with_a_cello]

I know, but I couldn't think of anything else to say,

that was REALLY mean & all but people are stupid if they are going to idiots like that they aren't even worth your time getting worked up about it!

[teen_with_a_cello]

I got the whole thing deleted- Nickoli and I were more disgusted than we ever have been. And the person said that they were a Christian.

ha lots of people say that & they shouldn't even be allowed to call themselves that like my exfriend who says she is christian but she thinks i am going to hell because i don't go to church & she let me know that @ my birthday party last year!

[angelgirl1419]

I got the whole thing deleted- Nickoli and I were more disgusted than we ever have been. And the person said that they were a Christian.

That's really terrible...

But for Coincidence's sake, I was watching Tyra Bank's talk show,(Don't make fun...)and she had three woman on their, that were all sisters. They had the same exact beliefs, and claimed they were christians...I just couldn't bring myself, to understand how these woman(one of the sisters being only 14 years of age)could hate these people so much...It really made me sick, and very sad to hear the things they said.

Thankfully, a woman in the audiance sent a note about her beliefs on Gay's, and she wrote that, "My god does not hate." Finally someone with some sense...

[Caoko]

That's really terrible...

But for Coincidence's sake, I was watching Tyra Bank's talk show,(Don't make fun...)and she had three woman on their, that were all sisters. They had the same exact beliefs, and claimed they were christians...I just couldn't bring myself, to understand how these woman(one of the sisters being only 14 years of age)could hate these people so much...It really made me sick, and very sad to hear the things they said.

Thankfully, a woman in the audiance sent a note about her beliefs on Gay's, and she wrote that, "My god does not hate." Finally someone with some sense...

I totally saw that episode. I was watching it with my grandma. And we stopped after like, one commercial and talked for like, more than 30 minutes about how stupid they were, and then we got off track. But, it just pissed me off that they could think those things and still consider themselves Christian. I could not believe that. It was just, so strange.

[angelgirl1419]

((ANTM!^_^lol))

I know, I was totally disgusted. I just couldn't understand why they would say, and believe such things...

[twilightqueen13]

Interesting you mention that- last night I was being told by a bible-belt Christian than homosexuals should be stoned cuz that's what they do in the Bible. Needless to say, I got a mod to shut down the thread.That is horrible. Why just because they're a Homosexual?! IT SHOULDN'T F***ING MATTER!

[Caoko]

((ANTM!^_^lol))

I know, I was totally disgusted. I just couldn't understand why they would say, and believe such things...

((Yay. <3 ))

I know! And my God, they just kept up bringing how society is ending and ****, and ohmygosh, it was so annoying.

[angelgirl1419]

((Lol, tommarow Night right?))

I know! Even Tyra said it was like talking to a brick wall, I can't imagine how she restrained her self so well.

[Caoko]

((Lol, tommarow Night right?))

I know! Even Tyra said it was like talking to a brick wall, I can't imagine how she restrained her self so well.

((Omg, yeah!))

I know! I applaud her on being able to hold her composure so well.

[angelgirl1419]

((Yay!^_^ I am so watching it. lol))

I don't think I would have been able too, especially if they wouldn't even give you ten seconds to give your pointe accross.

[Thinkbluethoughts]

It seems kind of mean to not let someone marry the one they love. I mean I'm not gay but I still don't think someone should be deprived of who they love. That's not fair. If you say America is "home of the free" then how can you only give some people freedom and others are denied it? Seems like home of the "Slave" to me.

[Soaki-chan]

I did an opinion paper at school on this and I want other people's opinion.

I think it is right because if you truly love someone, man or woman, why shouldn't you be allowed to be with them? Yes, many teens find it 'gross' or 'immorale' or anything else, but what's wrong with it?

Do you know how much pain homosexuals go through? Always having people make fun of them, treat them horribly, and put them down. To have another human being dislike another just because of their sexual interest is not right!

All citizens of the U.S. were giving the rights to Pursuit of Happiness. Why are homosexuals treated differently? Are they not Americans? Do they not deserve rights just as everyone else? Who are we to decide whom they should love?

Why can't people just mind their own business?!?

that's deep, real deep. I agree. But, I am against gay/lesbian relationships, since it is a sin (So what if I''m a christian?) But you have a serious point.

[Kitty_Chan]

that's deep, real deep. I agree. But, I am against gay/lesbian relationships, since it is a sin (So what if I''m a christian?) But you have a serious point.

I'm Christian as well, tho not a complete freak about it (no offense because i've seen how some act )How is it a sin? I'm just curious. But, I've never read the Bible, i just know that Jesus died on the cross for our sins. He suffered for our sins to be forgiven, and that is what i live by. God and Jesus love all, whether they are murderers, rapists, or homosexuals, for the Holy Father believes in forgivness.
Of course, that is just MY opinion.

[teen_with_a_cello]

that's deep, real deep. I agree. But, I am against gay/lesbian relationships, since it is a sin (So what if I''m a christian?) But you have a serious point.

how the heck is a sin? i mean what difference does it make if someone marries someone of the same sex or not?

[Kitty_Chan]

how the heck is a sin? i mean what difference does it make if someone marries someone of the same sex or not?

i honestly haven't a clue. but, i'm not one to judge, so i would prefer for Soaki-Chan to explain their reasoning.

[teen_with_a_cello]

i honestly haven't a clue. but, i'm not one to judge, so i would prefer for Soaki-Chan to explain their reasoning.

that should be interesting!

[Kitty_Chan]

lol, they aren't on anymore, tho
i find it interesting that they agree with me, but are homophobes O_o

[teen_with_a_cello]

lol, they aren't on anymore, tho
i find it interesting that they agree with me, but are homophobes O_o

ya really!

[Kitty_Chan]

I know. It's really weird

[dead sephiroth]

well idc either way

[Kitty_Chan]

well idc either way

about what?

[dead sephiroth]

lemme correct my self idc either way bout the marriage i mean its there choice y should we stop ppl from makin there decisions

[Kitty_Chan]

ah. exactly. it's not our decision and it;s dumb how people think it is. Basically, it's not our business

[ChaosAngel]

I agree. I think homosexuals should get married. I AGREE!

[Kitty_Chan]

^-^ Yay! more followers, lol

[ChaosAngel]

Lol, I have a friend who is gay. And I love her to death. She is like a sister to me, and I would love to see her get married.

[Kitty_Chan]

aww. There's this gay kid at my school. I don't know him very well, but he always mooches off me and my friends -_-

[ChaosAngel]

Well, she isn't a moocher, lol. I do love her, she is such a good friend.

[Kitty_Chan]

that's still cool. My sis has a gay friend, tho she had the HUGEST crush on him when she first met him. Lol

[ChaosAngel]

I would so hate to be a person who had a crush on someone then find out their gay. But still, I had a crush on my friend then she came out. Lol.

[Kitty_Chan]

lol, i think it'll happen to me. It happened to my mom and sis so i think it's a curse O_o

[ChaosAngel]

Another thing, why I say yes to gay marriages...Is because I am gay :o

[Kitty_Chan]

wow. i did not know that *blinks*

i think i'm biCURIOUS. i literally have no hormones and don't like anyone at my school.

[ChaosAngel]

I am usually shy about me being gay though

[Kitty_Chan]

well, i would be too. it's risky to go around telling people, especially since how people are today.

[ChaosAngel]

Tell me about it. But I happy being gay ^_^

[Kitty_Chan]

Gay about being gay, huh? I've actually never heard that one before. Lol

[Sceadu]

People are just against things like sodomy and such. That is why most people don't support it. Because its considered "unnatural". Half the things people do today are 'unnatural'. Like the anorexics/bulmics. But why is that not considered wrong? Why is that not illegal? Because people "can't help it".
Well, most people don't wake up one day and decide they want to be gay, just like people don't wake up and say they want to slowly kill their body by starving themselves. But don't get me wrong. I'm not saying being gay is a disease. Cuz its not.
But the world is so fncked up today. I blame the government. They make damn sure the gays can't get married, but they don't do a damn thing bout all the stupid celebs inspiring average people to become anorexic!

[ChaosAngel]

Eh, I can't wait to get married to my lover ^_^

[Kitty_Chan]

People are just against things like sodomy and such. That is why most people don't support it. Because its considered "unnatural". Half the things people do today are 'unnatural'. Like the anorexics/bulmics. But why is that not considered wrong? Why is that not illegal? Because people "can't help it".
Well, most people don't wake up one day and decide they want to be gay, just like people don't wake up and say they want to slowly kill their body by starving themselves. But don't get me wrong. I'm not saying being gay is a disease. Cuz its not.
But the world is so fncked up today. I blame the government. They make damn sure the gays can't get married, but they don't do a damn thing bout all the stupid celebs inspiring average people to become anorexic!

that's so true. I hate it when people say that some "decide" to be gay or anything else like that. it's so dumb! It's like saying that we can decide on what gender we are! it's not true, but now that i think about it, it would probably help.

Anyway, i think it's unfair for people to think that.

congrats, ChaosAngel! I'm so happy for you!

[Sceadu]

that's so true. I hate it when people say that some "decide" to be gay or anything else like that. it's so dumb! It's like saying that we can decide on what gender we are! it's not true, but now that i think about it, it would probably help.

Anyway, i think it's unfair for people to think that.
Metrosexuals are a little strange. What are they trying to prove in the first place?

[Kitty_Chan]

Metrosexuals are a little strange. What are they trying to prove in the first place?

I think they are just trying to be the gender they want to be and think they should be. It's not really strange, but i find it sad

[ChaosAngel]

When...I uh get one :P But when I get married I know i will be happy with him teehee

[Kitty_Chan]

When...I uh get one :P But when I get married I know i will be happy with him teehee

You made it sound like you were getting married! how dare you fool me like that! LOL!

[ChaosAngel]

I sowwy *walks away*

[Kitty_Chan]

I sowwy *walks away*

I'm just playing ;)

I guess that's why my mom says talking on the 'puter is confusing sometimes; you can't hear sarcasm. lol

[ChaosAngel]

Lol very true ^_^ But, I really hope they make gay marriages legalized in the United States ^_^

[Kitty_Chan]

me too. I don't know why, though. For the longest times, I've just felt strongly about it, but i really don't know why.

I mean, I know it's right and should be allowed, but I've always wondered why me.....

...Must be cuz i'm better than everyone :)

[namine325]

I did an opinion paper at school on this and I want other people's opinion.

I think it is right because if you truly love someone, man or woman, why shouldn't you be allowed to be with them? Yes, many teens find it 'gross' or 'immorale' or anything else, but what's wrong with it?

Do you know how much pain homosexuals go through? Always having people make fun of them, treat them horribly, and put them down. To have another human being dislike another just because of their sexual interest is not right!

All citizens of the U.S. were giving the rights to Pursuit of Happiness. Why are homosexuals treated differently? Are they not Americans? Do they not deserve rights just as everyone else? Who are we to decide whom they should love?

Why can't people just mind their own business?!?

me too I think it's not fair.bi's are also treated mean just cause they like both sex's.

btw:I'm bi,I mean I like girls too.but I've never been with one.

[Kitty_Chan]

me too I think it's not fair.bi's are also treated mean just cause they like both sex's.

btw:I'm bi,I mean I like girls too.but I've never been with one.

i know. people treat others so badly.

my sis doesn't like bi's that much, even though she is for G.M. She says they're just horny -_-
i don't agree with her at ALL. Mainly because I don't know WHAT i am. I don't really have hormones :( I just call myself bicurious

[nokvok]

Gay, bi, hetero... anachronistic labels rooted in anachronistic gender concepts.

I do believe it should be in general allowed for people do declare themself 'Family' in whatever sense. No matter the gender, the actual sexual preference or activity or event the number of people involved.

It is no one's else business whom I want allowed to visit me in jail or to decide whether to pull the plug out of my breathing machine. Or with who I want to share a flat or income.
And really there is not much more that being a spouse means.
With age of Maturity I want to be allowed to decide myself who is close enough to me, emotionally or otherwise, to play a significant and responsible role in my life.

[foxed_spirt]

I did an opinion paper at school on this and I want other people's opinion.

I think it is right because if you truly love someone, man or woman, why shouldn't you be allowed to be with them? Yes, many teens find it 'gross' or 'immorale' or anything else, but what's wrong with it?

Do you know how much pain homosexuals go through? Always having people make fun of them, treat them horribly, and put them down. To have another human being dislike another just because of their sexual interest is not right!

All citizens of the U.S. were giving the rights to Pursuit of Happiness. Why are homosexuals treated differently? Are they not Americans? Do they not deserve rights just as everyone else? Who are we to decide whom they should love?

Why can't people just mind their own business?!?

I totally agree with gay marrige.
Infact, the nicest person I know is gay. So what?
I used to make fun of them, but now since what I consider is my best friend, I hate it when my friends say thart,
"Hey, you are sooo gay! *snicker* "
I yell at them.
It's okay to love someone that is the same gender as you. Nothing wrong at that.

[twilight_trance1117]

I did an opinion paper at school on this and I want other people's opinion.

I think it is right because if you truly love someone, man or woman, why shouldn't you be allowed to be with them? Yes, many teens find it 'gross' or 'immorale' or anything else, but what's wrong with it?

Do you know how much pain homosexuals go through? Always having people make fun of them, treat them horribly, and put them down. To have another human being dislike another just because of their sexual interest is not right!

All citizens of the U.S. were giving the rights to Pursuit of Happiness. Why are homosexuals treated differently? Are they not Americans? Do they not deserve rights just as everyone else? Who are we to decide whom they should love?

Why can't people just mind their own business?!?

Ok people. Please don't hate me for my opinion. It's just that. My OPINION. I respect all of yours, so please try to respect mine.

I think judging others and their sexuality is just wrong. Judging in general is WRONG. However, I am a Christian and I have strong religious values. In Christianity, the Bible says that homosexuality is wrong. It condems the act and not the person. I don't like getting into this topic too much but I will say this. If Christianity does not condone gay marriage, then to me, it seems hypocritical for churchs to hold marriage ceremonies, because that goes against what the Bible says.
Once again, I'm not here to argue or make people hate me. That's just my opinion. ^___^

[dead sephiroth]

hi y should ppl judge u if ur bi, gay, straight etc...

[AnotherSkip]

accualy there have been records of prides of female lions and there have also been reports of packs of all male wolfs so yeah I don't really care love is love deal.

[jitsu]

actually gays marriage is sigusting and i will tell y:
1-they spread the fact that it is ok to have sex with ur same sex btween ppl..well after few years the families will extinict cuz men and women r no longer getting marry..they r GAYS.
2-HIV (AIDS) will be available...*alot* with that kind of marriage cuz the scintific researches say that the chances of getting hiv is very high in having sex btween the same sex or even when doing sex in the wrong way btween a male and a female.
3-this is against ur religious beliefs*don't say they r crazy in love i don't care about that...it is u whom i care about his or her opinion*cuz i think those ppl will go to hell for that gay acting.
4-well...how will they live their marriage?i mean the man is the tough member and the woman is the tender member in the family...ok that's wt we no...if 2 gays marry..who will be the tough and who will be the tender?if 2 men..one of them will be tender and this is against his nature...a 500,000 years of nature he just broke it up?same with women..one of them will be tough.
*p.s.:i'm not trying to be the opposite side in the serious discussion i just say my opinion so don't get offended plz*

[jitsu]

actually gays marriage is sigusting and i will tell y:
1-they spread the fact that it is ok to have sex with ur same sex btween ppl..well after few years the families will extinict cuz men and women r no longer getting marry..they r GAYS.
2-HIV (AIDS) will be available...*alot* with that kind of marriage cuz the scintific researches say that the chances of getting hiv is very high in having sex btween the same sex or even when doing sex in the wrong way btween a male and a female.
3-this is against ur religious beliefs*don't say they r crazy in love i don't care about that...it is u whom i care about his or her opinion*cuz i think those ppl will go to hell for that gay acting.
4-well...how will they live their marriage?i mean the man is the tough member and the woman is the tender member in the family...ok that's wt we no...if 2 gays marry..who will be the tough and who will be the tender?if 2 men..one of them will be tender and this is against his nature...a 500,000 years of nature he just broke it up?same with women..one of them will be tough.
*p.s.:i'm not trying to be the opposite side in the serious discussion i just say my opinion so don't get offended plz*

[Sceadu]

actually gays marriage is sigusting and i will tell y:
1-they spread the fact that it is ok to have sex with ur same sex btween ppl..well after few years the families will extinict cuz men and women r no longer getting marry..they r GAYS.
2-HIV (AIDS) will be available...*alot* with that kind of marriage cuz the scintific researches say that the chances of getting hiv is very high in having sex btween the same sex or even when doing sex in the wrong way btween a male and a female.
3-this is against ur religious beliefs*don't say they r crazy in love i don't care about that...it is u whom i care about his or her opinion*cuz i think those ppl will go to hell for that gay acting.
4-well...how will they live their marriage?i mean the man is the tough member and the woman is the tender member in the family...ok that's wt we no...if 2 gays marry..who will be the tough and who will be the tender?if 2 men..one of them will be tender and this is against his nature...a 500,000 years of nature he just broke it up?same with women..one of them will be tough.
*p.s.:i'm not trying to be the opposite side in the serious discussion i just say my opinion so don't get offended plz*
First off, learn some spelling. I could hardly understand anything you said.
"4-well...how will they live their marriage?i mean the man is the tough member and the woman is the tender member in the family...ok that's wt we no...if 2 gays marry..who will be the tough and who will be the tender?if 2 men..one of them will be tender and this is against his nature...a 500,000 years of nature he just broke it up?same with women..one of them will be tough."

Are you trying to say women can't work for a living, or only one person in the house is allowed to work? Its the 21st Century; women are allowed to get jobs.

And guess what, bud. HIV can happen to ANYONE, NOT STRICTLY HOMOSEXUALS! It may have first appeared on homosexuals, but it damn well didn't stay there.

"1-they spread the fact that it is ok to have sex with ur same sex btween ppl..well after few years the families will extinict cuz men and women r no longer getting marry..they r GAYS."

Oh yeah. Totally. Oh much of an idiot are you? People DON'T TURN GAY BY CHOICE, THEY'RE BORN WITH THAT CODING IN THEIR BRAINS. You can't just wake up one day and say "I'm going to be a homosexual". No, that's METRO SEXUAL.
Need a definition?

Next time you enter such a serious dicussion make sure your grammar and facts are up to date.

[jitsu]

wow did u replay at me?i see that u only quote from me but the answer isn't wt i expect my friend...
first i didn't said any words about working in the family..i said that there is a tough said in the marriage who is the man these days ... he give love and protection to his female(the wife).
second about people don't turn gays by choice because they r born gays...well then it is a genetic disease known as (Gays disease) is that wt u say?listen to me my friend it will take me a period if u want me to write a biology exam about Mendl laws of genetic diseases (if u want i can tell u how the genetic diseases r heireted from parents to childrens)..but let me tell u something...there is no sexual feeling that can be transfered from parents to the childrens...that's mean they become gays when they r teenagers or adults only...got it?
third...about spelling mistakes...wt i wrote was the text language that is used here mostly ...and if u talking about real care mistakes i have only one which was the word (sigusting)i meant disgusting.
fourth...we r not here to offend the other guys who r posting their opinions so if u don't agree with some one don't answer him by saying Oh much of an idiot are you?
and thank u for posting ur opinion and every one have the right here to say what his or her opinion about something ...serious discussion is for every one not for a certain people.

(p.s.:u got a spelling mistake too...look for the last line word dicussion ^^)

[Kyrin]

Hey everyone, this just in *HEAVY SARCASM*

Guess where AIDS originated?

It was originally a disease of gorillas and other primates that was not, I repeat not transferrable to humans.

It was only transferrable to humans when scientists decided to re-engineer the virus.

And then, coincidentally, the virus "accidentally" got into polio vaccines destined for Africa. It's still under debate whether it was accidental or an attempt to wipe out homosexuals and poor people in Africa or not.

AIDS is transferrable by any bodily fluid, the most common being blood, excrement and sexual fluids.

So really, it's very ignorant of anyone to say that AIDS is a homosexual-specific disease. So shut up about it until you know something about it.

[jitsu]

can i put the ways where the aids is transferred?thank u
1-blood fluid.
2-from the mother to her baby during pregnancy.
3-by the drug addicts...using the same needle to put drugs into their bodies.
4-by sex.
did i made a good explaination...that means if u shake hands or even hug someone who has aids u won't get affected.

[Kyrin]

can i put the ways where the aids is transferred?thank u
1-blood fluid.
2-from the mother to her baby during pregnancy.
3-by the drug addicts...using the same needle to put drugs into their bodies.
4-by sex.
did i made a good explaination...that means if u shake hands or even hug someone who has aids u won't get affected.

You just rewrote what I said and left stuff out.

And made yourself redundant. "Blood fluid." Blood is a fluid, it's a given. "From the mother to the baby during pregnancy." That's also a transferral through blood. "Drug addicts using the same needle" is also blood. As would be a vaccination, the virus is being pumped directly into the blood.

"By sex." Yes, but not necessarily. See, there are other ways of getting a sexual fluid from someone's body than sex. I'm not going to explain them to you, that's your parent or legal guardian's job.

Excrement also contains the AIDS virus.

So no, you did a miserable job of explaining it. You were incoherent, redundant and inaccurate.

Please read and reread other people's posts and your own posts before you hit "submit reply." It will save you embarassing corrections by other people, like this one.

[jitsu]

thank u...the main idea is the blood transfering...how ever i'm not embaraseed cuz i no that people may accept or reject the others opinions...again i say that there must be no offending to the other people who post their opinion i'm not her to fight...it is not the (fight club)..this is a serious discussion and as far as i no people r supposed to be polite here...now it is answer time
from mother to baby during pregnancy...this is not a blood transferring..don't answer or argue with me i already got the highest marks in biology and u can ask anybody like ur teacher on how the nutertions are transferred from mother to embrew during pregnancy..it is not blood.
and wt do u mean not necessarly by sex?do u have anymore ideas about how aids is transfered in many ways than sex?u can say that if u no because i want to learn and to necessarly from my parents i learned many things without them ...well so wt r those ways?

[Kyrin]

thank u...the main idea is the blood transfering...how ever i'm not embaraseed cuz i no that people may accept or reject the others opinions...again i say that there must be no offending to the other people who post their opinion i'm not her to fight...it is not the (fight club)..this is a serious discussion and as far as i no people r supposed to be polite here...now it is answer time
from mother to baby during pregnancy...this is not a blood transferring..don't answer or argue with me i already got the highest marks in biology and u can ask anybody like ur teacher on how the nutertions are transferred from mother to embrew during pregnancy..it is not blood.
and wt do u mean not necessarly by sex?do u have anymore ideas about how aids is transfered in many ways than sex?u can say that if u no because i want to learn and to necessarly from my parents i learned many things without them ...well so wt r those ways?

During pregnancy, nutrients are transferred through the umbilical cord. The mother and child literally share blood, as well as broken down food, true, but blood is what the nutrients dissolve in to be transferred throughout the body. It's the only fluid that gets everywhere in the body and can get everything where it needs to go.

Your "high marks" mean nothing, in the long run. All they mean is that you were able to spit out information. It doesn't mean you learned anything at all. But that's another discussion.

Your naïveté tells me that I'm probably much older than you, and know a bit more biology than you will for a while.

And by "other ways" I mean masturbation. It releases sexual fluids from the body without actually having intercourse. People can come into contact with fluids produced by masturbation and then, if it enters their body, the person will contract AIDS.

[jitsu]

how good...actually i'm older than u if u want to no...well u can pm me and u will no my age if u want^^.
BTW..i'm a little shocked of my self since u said that i only able to spit out infos...reading is my second hobby if u wanna no i read even if it is not exams time...
me...however i don't want to open sex posts here...so i will only ask u that question....do u agree that aids can get spread by gay marriage or not?cuz from scale one to ten i give it eleven....gay marriage gives aids on a golden plate

[Kyrin]

how good...actually i'm older than u if u want to no...well u can pm me and u will no my age if u want^^.
BTW..i'm a little shocked of my self since u said that i only able to spit out infos...reading is my second hobby if u wanna no i read even if it is not exams time...
me...however i don't want to open sex posts here...so i will only ask u that question....do u agree that aids can get spread by gay marriage or not?cuz from scale one to ten i give it eleven....gay marriage gives aids on a golden plate

I didn't say that, I said that all "high marks" proves is that you know how to spit out info. I didn't say you don't learn. There are these differences that you need to notice, or you'll be getting offended a lot in your life.

And frankly, gay marriage does nothing for HIV/AIDS. Neither does heterosexual marriage. Marriage doesn't HAVE to include sex. That's just the norm.

Homosexual sex and heterosexual sex are both just as likely to spread HIV/AIDS. Not one is more likely than the other. If someone has HIV/AIDS, and they have sex with someone, no matter what that other person's sex is, they have the same risk of contracting HIV/AIDS.

And you assume that all homosexual relationships are open, if you're saying that gay marriage will spread HIV/AIDS. Because last I checked, if you're married, you're sposed to be having sex with only one person. Your assumption that all homosexual relationships are open is offensive and ignorant.

[LillyPadDooDa]

Here's my take on the whole Gay Marriage thing:

I think it's their peroggative to get married if they want. It's not anyone else desicion to decide for them whether or not they should. That's wrong. It'd be like the President telling men and women in love in an all gay world that they couldn't get married because it was disgusting. It's not disgusting...it's nature.

[Kyrin]

My friend wanted to get a word in on this discussion, because she read it and found many of the arguments for the con side of things to be incorrect and offensive, and she doesn't have an account. Please do not reply to this. You won't get a response.

Hi. I’m Kyrin’s friend. And I wanna get a word in with my lack of account and all. Sometimes I get the urge to jump in on stuff like this cause the public speaking on the topic I’ve kinda got down.
Ok bear with me cause I honestly had to sit down and translate what you said because of the type style you used when you posted. It took me a moment to realize that ‘wt’ meant what.

1- You assume that magically the entire world will suddenly become gay and there will be a mass stop of procreation. Which would not happen. Homosexuality is the minority sexual preference. And the magic and the choice are about as real as each other, so neither is likely to happen. And in today’s society, with the resources we have, the population wouldn’t even hinder if suddenly half the world was happy and married and gay because of artificial insemination and all the poor little children around the world who are waiting for loving parents. Wouldn’t you prefer life with two parents who loved each other to not knowing any at all? The family wouldn’t become extinct. A family is about love. And you can’t kill love.

2- HIV, which is not the same as AIDS, it’s just connected, is available through any relationship in which a partner has been exposed or in which there is contact to someone who has the virus. Meaning healthy faithful couples are not at high risk for the disease. And couples who are at risk include heterosexuals. If you’re a girl, liking boys isn’t a prevention from HIV, and vise versa. Sex isn’t the only way to become HIV positive and neither is being homosexual. And that kind of thinking kills people. So please, if you read this and there’s a way you may have been exposed to HIV, please get tested.

3- That gay acting? This one was just plain hard to read. It’s not against my religious beliefs. Or that of almost anyone I know. The God I was taught about as a child was a God of love. And is that not what people do when they seek the right to marry? They love. How that can go against anyone’s beliefs is beyond me.

And doesn’t religion also teach against divorce too? I think right now if there’s any threat to the institution of marriage it’s divorce. What with homosexuals not having the privilege, they obviously can’t be a threat to the institution, so why not fix it up first. That way it’s nice and pretty when all the gays come to visit.

Cause I wouldn’t want it now anyway, the bad rep it’s got. If it’s going to be decreed that homosexuals can’t get married because of the bible- in a freedom of religion society- I think heterosexuals should have the right revoked too, because a lot of them aren’t doing as the bible says either.

4- Who’s the butch and who’s the femme has long been a plaguing question in gay society. Because it’s such an ill informed stereotype of a question. Is your father really the caveman who brings home the meat and your mother the doting wife who fries it up and does all the house work? I doubt it, because we don’t live like we did in the fifties. And even then it was iffy what with the beginning seeds of the feminist movement. I can look in my home and tell you now, my dad is not that cave man and my mother will never be the housebound wife. Times change. In heterosexual relationships there is no stereotypic man and woman.

And the same goes for homosexual relationships. Sure, in either type, one person may take on a more dominant role, but that’s just an aspect of their personality. It doesn’t say anything for the gender. It isn’t about being tough and being tender. It’s about safety and love.

Again, do not reply to this post. You won't be responded to.

[jitsu]

i thoght i already talked about how hiv is made and transfered through sex...the hiv virus is created when the (males liquid...i won't say that)is put in the wrong part of the woman body or even the man in the gay marriage....scientists say that the virus is already at the liquid...how ever when it is put into the body in a wrong way there will be some changing in the virus and it will transform into the hiv virus...also if a woman didn't have protection during sex and had sex with many guys in a short period(2 months)there will be a 95% chance that she will get hiv....u said that marriage doesn't have to include sex...well then y do we marry?to have children right?that's one of the reasons and it is the main reason....and also we have need for sex to be honest ... so that's y guys love girls and then they get marry to them...each sex needs the other...that's the idea and it is a balance .... don't disturb that balance or there will be even a more dangerous virus than aids

[LillyPadDooDa]

ARE YOU KIDDING! I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of males for females and females in this world to spare a few to same sex marriages. I don't understand why you think it's so wrong! If they're in love, they are allowed to be in love. Equallity is key. They have equal rights, so they're allowed to get married to whatever sex they want. You don't NEED sex.

That's just something the media puts in our head through subliminal messaging.

[Kyrin]

i thoght i already talked about how hiv is made and transfered through sex...the hiv virus is created when the (males liquid...i won't say that)is put in the wrong part of the woman body or even the man in the gay marriage....scientists say that the virus is already at the liquid...how ever when it is put into the body in a wrong way there will be some changing in the virus and it will transform into the hiv virus...also if a woman didn't have protection during sex and had sex with many guys in a short period(2 months)there will be a 95% chance that she will get hiv....u said that marriage doesn't have to include sex...well then y do we marry?to have children right?that's one of the reasons and it is the main reason....and also we have need for sex to be honest ... so that's y guys love girls and then they get marry to them...each sex needs the other...that's the idea and it is a balance .... don't disturb that balance or there will be even a more dangerous virus than aids

Um no.

You're wrong on all counts. See, HIV/AIDS isn't created naturally for humans. It's a lab mutation. Thank you, America. I hate this country, sometimes. When HIV/AIDS is in the body, it will transfer to someone if any of the fluids that bear the virus as a pathogen is put inside another body, regardless of what "hole" it is. If semen goes into a vagina, and that semen contains HIV/AIDS, that woman has just contracted HIV/AIDS.

And having a lot of sex with lots of partners doesn't mean you'll contract HIV/AIDS, either. All the people could be scotch free of the virus. There's no way for it to just "appear" cuz someone gets around.

People get married because they love each other. Why do you think sterile couples marry? Because they love each other. Because they want the benefits. One or both of those reasons.

[jitsu]

well thank u kyrin friend for posting ur opinion i would have answered u but kyrin said that it is ur opinion and she won't talk in ur tongue^^

[Kyrin]

And...




SEMEN

[jitsu]

ARE YOU KIDDING! I'm pretty sure that there are plenty of males for females and females in this world to spare a few to same sex marriages. I don't understand why you think it's so wrong! If they're in love, they are allowed to be in love. Equallity is key. They have equal rights, so they're allowed to get married to whatever sex they want. You don't NEED sex.

That's just something the media puts in our head through subliminal messaging.

media?i don't watch tv if u want to no or even the radio...i spend most of my time with my self.
i won't say any thing about being in love...every one has the right to love...that how ever ...there r some rules for that..and when u said that there r enough males and females in the world..true..but if guys like u start supporting gay marriage there won't be in a hunderd years ago

[LillyPadDooDa]

media?i don't watch tv if u want to no or even the radio...i spend most of my time with my self.
i won't say any thing about being in love...every one has the right to love...that how ever ...there r some rules for that..and when u said that there r enough males and females in the world..true..but if guys like u start supporting gay marriage there won't be in a hunderd years ago
Just because we support gay marriage doesn't mean that people are going to decide being gay is the new rage. We're just standing up for what we believe in. And, media is everywhere. Do you where AXE? Do you see billboards that have condom advertisments. Because I know that, here, in Dallas, they're all over the place. I don't watch that much T.V. either. I read or get on the comp. Speaking of which, the media also includes the internet...one of the most influential things on God's Green Earth.

[Kyrin]

media?i don't watch tv if u want to no or even the radio...i spend most of my time with my self.
i won't say any thing about being in love...every one has the right to love...that how ever ...there r some rules for that..and when u said that there r enough males and females in the world..true..but if guys like u start supporting gay marriage there won't be in a hunderd years ago

What are you talking about? "but if guys like u start supporting gay marriage there won't be in a hunderd years ago." That makes no sense at all.

And if you spend most of your time with yourself, why are you telling other people how they should live? If you have little to no contact with the world, concentrate on yourself and let the world work itself out. It doesn't affect you, if you spend most of your time with yourself, so don't tell people who it does affect what they can and cannot do.

[jitsu]

i don't see alot of comdoms billboards since they r illegal in ireland that however i only use the net where i can discuss with people and learn from them..i didn't said that since u support gay marriage u will become gay...but well...if someone else is reading this thread and saw that i'm the only one who is against the gay marriage here...he or she will start thinking:(so wt r the gays?-if he or she don't no about them-what is the feeling about being married to a gay ?)and alot of question will jump to the mind...
kyrin wt do u mean by and?do u want me to replay on ur friend or is there something else?

[jitsu]

What are you talking about? "but if guys like u start supporting gay marriage there won't be in a hunderd years ago." That makes no sense at all.

And if you spend most of your time with yourself, why are you telling other people how they should live? If you have little to no contact with the world, concentrate on yourself and let the world work itself out. It doesn't affect you, if you spend most of your time with yourself, so don't tell people who it does affect what they can and cannot do.

plz calm down as i said we r not fighting here...we r discussing our opinions only and i'm not forcing anyone to do something or not...and i have a good connection to this world but i no myself has some right on me that's y i spend some time alone

[Kyrin]

i don't see alot of comdoms billboards since they r illegal in ireland that however i only use the net where i can discuss with people and learn from them..i didn't said that since u support gay marriage u will become gay...but well...if someone else is reading this thread and saw that i'm the only one who is against the gay marriage here...he or she will start thinking:(so wt r the gays?-if he or she don't no about them-what is the feeling about being married to a gay ?)and alot of question will jump to the mind...
kyrin wt do u mean by and?do u want me to replay on ur friend or is there something else?

There is something else. I wrote "SEMEN" underneath it in large letters. Because there's nothing dirty about the word. There's no reason for you to have an aversion to saying semen. I understand that you might and respect that you do, but it is kind of silly, don't you think? But it is what you think that matters on who you are and what you say, so don't mind me on that point.

[jitsu]

i wasn't saying that word cuz u r a female and i pay attention to wt i say when i speak with a female...however u seem like u don't have a problem with the word semen but so i won't pull back the next time i will say it

[Sceadu]

wow did u replay at me?i see that u only quote from me but the answer isn't wt i expect my friend...
first i didn't said any words about working in the family..i said that there is a tough said in the marriage who is the man these days ... he give love and protection to his female(the wife).
second about people don't turn gays by choice because they r born gays...well then it is a genetic disease known as (Gays disease) is that wt u say?listen to me my friend it will take me a period if u want me to write a biology exam about Mendel laws of genetic diseases (if u want i can tell u how the genetic diseases r heireted from parents to childrens)..but let me tell u something...there is no sexual feeling that can be transfered from parents to the childrens...that's mean they become gays when they r teenagers or adults only...got it?
third...about spelling mistakes...wt i wrote was the text language that is used here mostly ...and if u talking about real care mistakes i have only one which was the word (sigusting)i meant disgusting.
fourth...we r not here to offend the other guys who r posting their opinions so if u don't agree with some one don't answer him by saying Oh much of an idiot are you?
and thank u for posting ur opinion and every one have the right here to say what his or her opinion about something ...serious discussion is for every one not for a certain people.

(p.s.:u got a spelling mistake too...look for the last line word dicussion ^^)
ONE. Not your friend.
TWO. I didn't say Disease. I said, born with this pattern in your brain. I'm bi. I've always been bi. It has nothing to to with a disease.
THREE. Then next time be more clear.
FOUR. One spelling mistake. I counted around 40 in your first post. I'm not going to bother with this one.
FIVE. You're the one saying if gay marriage is legalized, everyone will go gay. Are you on crack?
SIX. I'm not the one ranting on Kyrin, now I am. I think its you who has no place in this discussion.
SEVEN. Immature. I told you what I see wrong with your views, and I have every fu.cking right to do so. I don't know if the rules are different in Ireland, and I don't care. I don't care.
EIGHT. This is what REALLY ticked me off. "You watch what you say around women?" Yeah? Guess what. I'm a woman, and you ain't watching what you say to me.
NINE. DON'T use chat room sh.it in a serious discussion. "cuz u r a female and i pay attention to wt i say when i speak with a female...however u seem like u " WTF? I could hardly understand any of that.
TEN. And dude. You can't hurt my feelings. You're what, ten, eleven? I'd think you're two, based on your attitude.
ELEVEN. I studied Mendel, thank you.
TWELVE. "..but if guys like u start supporting gay marriage there won't be in a hunderd years ago" HELLO! I'm BISEXUAL! Of course I'm supporting it! People aren't going to go gay because its legalized you idiot!
THIRTEEN. How can you be aware of the world if you stated I don't watch tv and I don't listen to the radio?
FOURTEEN. DO you KNOW how many people there are in the world? Around like 6.67 billion. NOT ENOUGH TO SPARE FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGE YOU SAY?


I'm sick of people like you Jitsu. You wanna hate gays? Take it somewhere else. Do you know how many homosexuals and bisexuals are on DollWizard? Alot. I know more then half of them.
I'm going to ask Neon or somebody to close this thread, I think.

[Sceadu]

Look guys! I remembered there's an ignore option! No more Jitsu vs. Sceadu argument for me! *na na* *sticks tongue out*

[jitsu]

jitsu vs sceadu????
i never thought it is a challenge here i'm just posting opinions oh look...someone is not really polite when he answer people what is her name?she said i hate gays?i never said that i only said that it is disgusting to marry the same sex...well since u r a bi i won't be able to change the way of ur thinking but pleaze the next time be more polite when u post ur opinion about what the other said
*i'm not going to answer all what u said from one to fourteen cuz there is nothing needs an answer as i see*

[LillyPadDooDa]

I've got one simple question...:

Why is it disgusting, same sex marriges?

[jitsu]

many answers:
1-it is against the man or the woman nature.
2-it is against the religious beliefs for many religions.
3-it spreads many dangerous deseases that could be prevented with the normal marriage(man and woman).
and many reasons...give it a thought and u will find the same in ur mind

[LillyPadDooDa]

many answers:
1-it is against the man or the woman nature.
2-it is against the religious beliefs for many religions.
3-it spreads many dangerous deseases that could be prevented with the normal marriage(man and woman).
and many reasons...give it a thought and u will find the same in ur mind
I will counterattack all of those:

1. The man and woman nature...is the man and woman nature. Which means, if a man loves and man or a woman loves a woman, they're nature is contorted...and that turns into their nature.
2. Like I said on the thread in "Satanisim", people are apt to their own beliefs. It's NO ONE'S desicion whether or not they should be together. I'm a Christian...and I support Gay Marriage with all my heart. Religion plays no part in the puzzle.
3. Even with a man or a woman, STDs can be spread just as fast as with a gay man or lesbian woman. I don't think it matters if you're with a woman or not. Let's not get into the discussion of pregnancy...which is as big a problem as STDs going around.

[jitsu]

i wasn't going to enter the pregnancy cuz i don't repeat wt i said b4....well i agree with u that the deseases can be spread with even a man and a woman...i said that b4 and i said that it only happen when a man have sex with a woman in a wrong way or the woman herself do alot of relation ships with men in a short period...and due to religion...when u marry u go to the church in order so the god bless the marriage ...look u go to the church grabing a girl hand*if u r a girl*and ask to get marry to her..what would people think?i think the preist would just kick anyone who will do that in the church cuz it is a sacred place....finally...i never said that u can't change the man and woman nature...i said that when it is broken there will be a great danger cuz of the misbalancing...this world is balanced *believe that or not* and any thing affect the balance affect the human in the first place.

[LillyPadDooDa]

Well...I don't really know how to make my point any clearer than I've already made it. But, I do have to say, you don't HAVE to get married in a church. You can get married by a legal judge, who won't act that way....I'm just saying, Religion doesn't have to play a part in that kind of marriage.

[jitsu]

tho i'm an irish...u should check the american law book and see if the state u r in allows gay marriage...from wt i heard there is only 3 states in usa support gay marriage..i forget the names tho but see if u r in one of those states^^

[LillyPadDooDa]

tho i'm an irish...u should check the american law book and see if the state u r in allows gay marriage...from wt i heard there is only 3 states in usa support gay marriage..i forget the names tho but see if u r in one of those states^^
Oh trust me...:) ....I'm know I'm not in one. I live in big, bad Texas.

[jitsu]

lol well...so u think it is better to live in a state that allows gay marriage?
*plz answer that and i will be on tommorrow cuz my bro wants the comp...it is been nice discussing with u^^*

[LillyPadDooDa]

I completely feel that way. I'm on vacation in a state that allows it, but when I'm old enough, I'm gonna move to France.

[scorpio grl]

Oh...My...God.....*Slams head against desk* I just read this entire thread and I don't understand how it cannot be any clearer...Gay marriage is not wrong. {At least not in my, or in most of the people on Dollwiz's, opinion(s)} It's unfair to say that it is.

Yeah, yeah, I know. In the Bible it says "A man and a woman" blah blah...So? The Bible has been translated hundreds of times in all different languages. How do you know it wasn't Adam and Steve, eh? {That is my joke for this post..^^} The Bible has been misinterpreted quite a lot as well. The number 666 for the devil, the story of Lillith, just to name two.

Love is love, no matter what sex, race, nationality, anything. Why should homosexuals be treated differently simply because they love someone of their own sex? They shouldn't. It's that damn simple.

As Kyrin has explained several times, HIV and AIDS can be transferred in all sexual relationships, no matter what the couple. Why get into this? It's proven that they can be transferred through the blood and any sexual secretion so it's not just centered around gay couples.

Also, why do you all {those that disagree with gay marriage} think it's wrong/disgusting, ect? It's their choice. It has nothing do do with you. Why do you frigging care? If two people want to be married, I say go for it. You want to be as miserable as the rest of us, sure! Step on up. {My other joke for this post. lol}

I also want to bring up another topic: Homophobes. What are they afraid of??? {In the words of ANT, the comedian:} Seriously, what do you think they're going to do? Kick your ass then rape you? Seriously, now.

These are just my opinions and if you don't like 'em, that's perfectly fine with me. I really don't care.

[jitsu]

ok so what r u trying to say?cuz till now u didn't add anything new

[zippythewild]

I think that gay marriage isn't immoral. or gross etc. BUT the main reason I believe gay marriage should be legal in america is that ITS IN THE FLUCKING CONSTITUTION! PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS MOTHER FLUCKERS! If they think they can only be happy if they can get married then let em get married! sure you can say, well I'll only be happy if i have my neighbors giant tv so if i steal it then thats ok cuz its pursuit of happiness right? But then that causes harm to someone else. Are homosexuals causing any harm? NO!

[scorpio grl]

ok so what r u trying to say?cuz till now u didn't add anything new
First off, I'm saying that gay marriage ISN'T WRONG. I don't believe it's gross or immoral, and most people here don't. Secondly, the only reason why I haven't posted until now is because I didn't see this thread until now. Otherwise I would have stated my opinions long ago.

zippy: Thank you. That's one thing I forgot to put in my post. ^^;

[Kyrin]

i wasn't saying that word cuz u r a female and i pay attention to wt i say when i speak with a female...however u seem like u don't have a problem with the word semen but so i won't pull back the next time i will say it

I'm male. And that's sexist.

[jitsu]

I'm male. And that's sexist.

plz take it easy on u i'm not sexist....look i will enter the logical thread now....if u saw ur brother or sister standing on the edge of a high mountain...wouldn't u try to help them and do anything to get them off the edge?well the edge here is the gays marriage it will affect the person in a negative way no matter wt they do (don't say that they don't have to have sex .... other wise y they become gays from the begining?)think of it from all the angles and u will get the same answer

[Animeboo]

I don't care all too much ^.^ Love is love whether it's with a girl or a boy. I don't support it nor do I reject it, since I'm not too sure of it myself.

[Kyrin]

plz take it easy on u i'm not sexist....look i will enter the logical thread now....if u saw ur brother or sister standing on the edge of a high mountain...wouldn't u try to help them and do anything to get them off the edge?well the edge here is the gays marriage it will affect the person in a negative way no matter wt they do (don't say that they don't have to have sex .... other wise y they become gays from the begining?)think of it from all the angles and u will get the same answer

How will it affect them in a negative way? They love someone, that person loves them. The end. Everything else they can work out themselves. If neither has HIV/AIDS (or any other STI), then there's no worry. Same if they both have it already. Otherwise, they work out how they want to do things themselves.

They're happy.

"Becoming" gay isn't a choice, and neither is it about sex. It's about who you're attracted to. You don't choose that. Homo/bi/pansexuals don't wake up one morning and think "Oh, I'm going to be homo/bi/pansexual." It's the way they are.

There are plenty of straight couples that don't have sex. Gay couples can do the same thing, if need be.

And if you think that it's inappropriate to say things like semen around a girl, then yeah, you are sexist.

[jitsu]

u no what?i'm out of this thread for many reasons...not cuz i don't have any more replays...but cuz u don't someone who have the opposite opinion here...all wt u want here:(what do u say about gay marriage?*that's the question* and every one must post saying yah i'm with gay marriage i don't have a problem with that)....i guess u don't want someone who have another idea...and what i say is cuz i'm being offended here many times...y?cuz i have another opinion...u no something?keep these ideas in ur minds i don't care i said what i have to say and the rest is up to u all

[Sceadu]

u no what?i'm out of this thread for many reasons...not cuz i don't have any more replays...but cuz u don't someone who have the opposite opinion here...all wt u want here:(what do u say about gay marriage?*that's the question* and every one must post saying yah i'm with gay marriage i don't have a problem with that)....i guess u don't want someone who have another idea...and what i say is cuz i'm being offended here many times...y?cuz i have another opinion...u no something?keep these ideas in ur minds i don't care i said what i have to say and the rest is up to u all
Um? What the hell did you say? Use spaces, and commas, and periods, PLEASE GODDAMIT. No one can understand what you're saying.

[Multi-Facets]

I'm bisexual. I'll just leave these snippets from a book I'm trying to write: It expresses what I believe.


"The restraints you humans put on yourselves is nothing short of criminal! Love is love, be it from a man to a man, a woman to a woman, or a man to a woman. Why can’t any of you comprehend that?! Why can’t any of you look past the sins you’ve created and realize that to deny love, no matter which gender draws you, is the greatest sin of all!

[...]

By the Gods and The Lady, you humans disgust me sometimes. You’re so blind, and you can’t understand anything at all. You’re the ones who say ‘thou shalt not kill’, ‘thou shalt not covet’, ‘honor thy mother and thy father’, and ‘love others as you wish to be loved’, and then what do you do? You turn right around and slay for no reason, rape your children and your grandchildren, your siblings and your first cousins, ostracize the blind, the deaf, the mute and the beggars, torment the weak, and then have the nerve to say someone like me is the true sinner!

"I never stole from the poor, never killed unless it was to protect others or myself; I assisted the weak, and I never raped anyone. All I did was love both males and females, and yet you call me a sinner. Where’s the sense in that? Where’s the love your God said to bestow on everyone? It’s certainly not in those holy writings you hold so dear, the ones everybody’s blindfolded themselves with and made the nooses to hang from. And it isn’t in your hearts!”

“How dare you-”

“Oh, I dare indeed. If anyone has the right to dare, it’s me! [...] If that puts me on a path to your Hell, so be it. I’ll be the happiest sinner in any world, and I will follow my heart no matter what. Do you know why?

"Because when love strikes, IT DOESN’T ASK QUESTIONS!”

[jitsu]

Um? What the hell did you say? Use spaces, and commas, and periods, PLEASE GODDAMIT. No one can understand what you're saying.
sounds like u r the only one who don't understand here...i'm not writing the old english
I'm bisexual. I'll just leave these snippets from a book I'm trying to write: It expresses what I believe.


"The restraints you humans put on yourselves is nothing short of criminal! Love is love, be it from a man to a man, a woman to a woman, or a man to a woman. Why can’t any of you comprehend that?! Why can’t any of you look past the sins you’ve created and realize that to deny love, no matter which gender draws you, is the greatest sin of all!

[...]

By the Gods and The Lady, you humans disgust me sometimes. You’re so blind, and you can’t understand anything at all. You’re the ones who say ‘thou shalt not kill’, ‘thou shalt not covet’, ‘honor thy mother and thy father’, and ‘love others as you wish to be loved’, and then what do you do? You turn right around and slay for no reason, rape your children and your grandchildren, your siblings and your first cousins, ostracize the blind, the deaf, the mute and the beggars, torment the weak, and then have the nerve to say someone like me is the true sinner!

"I never stole from the poor, never killed unless it was to protect others or myself; I assisted the weak, and I never raped anyone. All I did was love both males and females, and yet you call me a sinner. Where’s the sense in that? Where’s the love your God said to bestow on everyone? It’s certainly not in those holy writings you hold so dear, the ones everybody’s blindfolded themselves with and made the nooses to hang from. And it isn’t in your hearts!”

“How dare you-”

“Oh, I dare indeed. If anyone has the right to dare, it’s me! [...] If that puts me on a path to your Hell, so be it. I’ll be the happiest sinner in any world, and I will follow my heart no matter what. Do you know why?

"Because when love strikes, IT DOESN’T ASK QUESTIONS!”

that's all wt i have been hearing since i start posting here..(if they love each other y can't they marry?)..ysmy best friend is a boy..but of course that doesn't mean that we r gays...can't u love the same sex with out getting married?oh i have a good answer for some one who said that the one is born gay...but i said i won't answer any of those questions any more cuz they r all the same

[Multi-Facets]

that's all wt i have been hearing since i start posting here..(if they love each other y can't they marry?)..ysmy best friend is a boy..but of course that doesn't mean that we r gays...can't u love the same sex with out getting married?oh i have a good answer for some one who said that the one is born gay...but i said i won't answer any of those questions any more cuz they r all the same

Hon, I'm sorry, but I have to ask: Don't you think you'd be better off by not letting your religion think for you?

We may have different sexualities, but we are human and we deserve the same rights as anyone else. It's that simple.

Do you honestly think people would choose to be anything other than straight, knowing people like you would ostracize them?

We don't choose. We are who we are, same as you. It's that simple there, too. (shrug) But then, I'm betting you don't care what I think. I'm a "sinner", after all. Maybe, but I'm a damn happy one and damn proud to be who I am.

That's all there is to it.

We will get our rights one day. Nothing will be threatened or harmed by it. And maybe then the world will get a little bit brighter.

In the meantime, I'll bask in the intellectual glow of people who support diversity, like the well-meaning and accepting people of this thread.

[Sceadu]

sounds like u r the only one who don't understand here...i'm not writing the old english


that's all wt i have been hearing since i start posting here..(if they love each other y can't they marry?)..ysmy best friend is a boy..but of course that doesn't mean that we r gays...can't u love the same sex with out getting married?oh i have a good answer for some one who said that the one is born gay...but i said i won't answer any of those questions any more cuz they r all the same
Cuz its fu.cking illiterate speech.

[Sceadu]

Hon, I'm sorry, but I have to ask: Don't you think you'd be better off by not letting your religion think for you?

We may have different sexualities, but we are human and we deserve the same rights as anyone else. It's that simple.

Do you honestly think people would choose to be anything other than straight, knowing people like you would ostracize them?

We don't choose. We are who we are, same as you. It's that simple there, too. (shrug) But then, I'm betting you don't care what I think. I'm a "sinner", after all. Maybe, but I'm a damn happy one and damn proud to be who I am.

That's all there is to it.

We will get our rights one day. Nothing will be threatened or harmed by it. And maybe then the world will get a little bit brighter.

In the meantime, I'll bask in the intellectual glow of people who support diversity, like the well-meaning and accepting people of this thread.
Don't bother. He's a drone. He just writes the same illiterate post over and over.

"Do you honestly think people would choose to be anything other than straight, knowing people like you would ostracize them"

Exactly what I told him. But he thought I was calling it a "disease". He's not going to listen to reason.

[jitsu]

Cuz its fu.cking illiterate speech.
yah i'm looking at a cery literate speech here..seems like u r the polite person here and i'm the bad guy....well u don't want a discuss right?u better use the 10 billion cells in ur mind called brain...oh and think about the word discuss...it means that there must be two sides every side has a different opinion...and be polite when u post a replay here this is no porn site

Don't bother. He's a drone. He just writes the same illiterate post over and over.

"Do you honestly think people would choose to be anything other than straight, knowing people like you would ostracize them"

Exactly what I told him. But he thought I was calling it a "disease". He's not going to listen to reason.

disease?no..this is a genetic disease that wt i said...cuz when some one is born with a thought like being gay?that mean he got it from either his/her mother or father or both.
here..
due to mendel law of hierity...the female has 2 genes...XX
and the male has 2 genes too but they r XY..
the gene Y in the male isn't as active as the gene X..look since the idea or the thought of being gay could happen to both males or females then this must be carried on the gene X cuz it is in both males and females...due to that..if the father is gay and the mother isn't a gay then the boys will be straight and the girls will have the (idea) meaning they r not gays but they will heir it in the future...if the mother is gay and the man isn't..then there will be all the boys r gays and all the girls will have the (idea)...and if the woman is carrying the gene of being a gay and the gene of not being a gay..and the man is straight...then 50% of the boys will be gays.
what i want to say is this is impossible cuz the scientist already didn't find that the idea of being gay is heirted from the parents meaning the person decide wether he / she wants to be gay or not...do u have any more talk about the one (is born with the idea of being gay?).
BTW...be polite more the next time u answer someone..again this is a discuss mean we r human not animals..well and when did i repeat the same post?i wasn't writing in every post..(if they love each other then y can't they get marry and become happy?)..oh plz i knew worse dicussion than this one...this is just a picnic for me but u guys just don't want to listen here...what u concentrate on isn't the discussion..no instead..the spelling mistakes or saying bad words is what u care about here...just use ur mind in the next time plz if u don't have an answer then no need for a post offensing someone in this thread...thank u

[Ryoken]

I really have no problem at all with homosexuals.I agree with evryone else who promotes gay marriage and I applaud them on having positive opinions.

And,people who are against gay marriage, how is it hurting you in any way??You act like a bunch of gay guys are going to beat you up and gang rape you or something!

[Multi-Facets]

Don't bother. He's a drone. He just writes the same illiterate post over and over.

"Do you honestly think people would choose to be anything other than straight, knowing people like you would ostracize them"

Exactly what I told him. But he thought I was calling it a "disease". He's not going to listen to reason.

And know he thinks it's a genetic disease, at that. (long sigh) I suppose you're right about the "drone" thing. But it was cool to see how many people on dollwizard have more open minds. ^n_n^

[Kyrin]

u no what?i'm out of this thread for many reasons...not cuz i don't have any more replays...but cuz u don't someone who have the opposite opinion here...all wt u want here:(what do u say about gay marriage?*that's the question* and every one must post saying yah i'm with gay marriage i don't have a problem with that)....i guess u don't want someone who have another idea...and what i say is cuz i'm being offended here many times...y?cuz i have another opinion...u no something?keep these ideas in ur minds i don't care i said what i have to say and the rest is up to u all

I agree with Sceadu. I've been having a hell of a time trying to decipher what you say are actual words.

You jumbled something about being offended. It's only offensive if you let it be. If you took the intelligent road and decided to take it as something you can use to grow, it's a pointer to your level of awareness, which at the moment, based on your other posts, is just about nil.

And see there's this thing where we're presenting valid arguments and you're saying the same thing over and over, like a robot that never learned any spelling or grammar. We would listen to a valid point, if you had any. Only you don't. You say the same unfounded thing over and over. We'd accept another opinion if that person could defend it, like we are defending ours. Only you're not defending your opinion. You're whining about the same thing, over and over.

Frankly, I'm glad you decided to be out of this thread, I have better things to waste time on than your yammering posts.

If anyone has an opinion different from mine, I do and will listen as long as they can defend it well and objectively. Sadly, I haven't met one person on this site that's able to do something like that.

One of the many reasons that I'm just about ready to delete my account on this site, if it weren't for the 3 threads I'm in right now that I'd feel bad for quitting.

[Kyrin]

I really have no problem at all with homosexuals.I agree with evryone else who promotes gay marriage and I applaud them on having positive opinions.

And,people who are against gay marriage, how is it hurting you in any way??You act like a bunch of gay guys are going to beat you up and gang rape you or something!

A phrase your last bit reminded me of, "Don't like gay marriage? Then don't get one and shut the fu.ck up."

[Ryoken]

Lol, but seriously....It's not like being gay is contagious or something

[Multi-Facets]

Lol, but seriously....It's not like being gay is contagious or something

I had to tell that to my best friend's Mormon/Catholic parents. ^><^ They are largely sensible adults; you'd think they'd know that despite their religions, right?

But then again, common sense did prevail, and they got over it. Maybe that's a good sign that people can be educated?

[Ryoken]

The human mind's ability to be educated is what helped us in the creation of such technological advances as the TV.....Lol, but people really shouldn't treat homosexuals as if they're a totally different species altogether

[jitsu]

I really have no problem at all with homosexuals.I agree with evryone else who promotes gay marriage and I applaud them on having positive opinions.

And,people who are against gay marriage, how is it hurting you in any way??You act like a bunch of gay guys are going to beat you up and gang rape you or something!
actually all what i'm doing here is posting my opinion...is that a crime?y do u guys say that i act like a bunch of guys is about to beat me when i have an opinion against u?well i have no problem with that
And know he thinks it's a genetic disease, at that. (long sigh) I suppose you're right about the "drone" thing. But it was cool to see how many people on dollwizard have more open minds. ^n_n^
thank u...but i told u it's impposible to be a genetic disease..read the posts instead of skimming them.
I agree with Sceadu. I've been having a hell of a time trying to decipher what you say are actual words.

You jumbled something about being offended. It's only offensive if you let it be. If you took the intelligent road and decided to take it as something you can use to grow, it's a pointer to your level of awareness, which at the moment, based on your other posts, is just about nil.

And see there's this thing where we're presenting valid arguments and you're saying the same thing over and over, like a robot that never learned any spelling or grammar. We would listen to a valid point, if you had any. Only you don't. You say the same unfounded thing over and over. We'd accept another opinion if that person could defend it, like we are defending ours. Only you're not defending your opinion. You're whining about the same thing, over and over.

Frankly, I'm glad you decided to be out of this thread, I have better things to waste time on than your yammering posts.

If anyone has an opinion different from mine, I do and will listen as long as they can defend it well and objectively. Sadly, I haven't met one person on this site that's able to do something like that.

One of the many reasons that I'm just about ready to delete my account on this site, if it weren't for the 3 threads I'm in right now that I'd feel bad for quitting.

thanx for ur opinion in me but i don't care about people opinions actually..and regarding the grammer and spell mistakes...don't bother ur self with them.

oh please i'm not the one who is like a robot...i used the religion..the logical ways and even scientific ways but what did i get/i get only posts saying if they love each other y can't they marry?let me tell u something....before a hunderd year..people were looking at gays as a crime ...now they r being supported...actualy i won't wonder if i saw a thread titled (brother and sister marriage...say yes or no)cuz this is how we all go down...by the way do u no what's the meaning of discussion?means u must get ready for an opposite opinion and must get ready for real answers not just bad words and offending the others who don't share u ur opinion.

[Ryoken]

actually all what i'm doing here is posting my opinion...is that a crime?y do u guys say that i act like a bunch of guys is about to beat me when i have an opinion against u?well i have no problem with that

thank u...but i told u it's impposible to be a genetic disease..read the posts instead of skimming them.


thanx for ur opinion in me but i don't care about people opinions actually..and regarding the grammer and spell mistakes...don't bother ur self with them.

oh please i'm not the one who is like a robot...i used the religion..the logical ways and even scientific ways but what did i get/i get only posts saying if they love each other y can't they marry?let me tell u something....before a hunderd year..people were looking at gays as a crime ...now they r being supported...actualy i won't wonder if i saw a thread titled (brother and sister marriage...say yes or no)cuz this is how we all go down...by the way do u no what's the meaning of discussion?means u must get ready for an opposite opinion and must get ready for real answers not just bad words and offending the others who don't share u ur opinion.My comment wasn't aimed towards you, but to all of the people who don't like gay marriage...Which would pretty much include you.

[Fishnet_evac_squad]

Wrong forum, whoops.

[Multi-Facets]

Jitsu, I do read the posts, hon. You're just damn near impossible to decipher because of rampant chatspeak, bad punctuation, horrible grammar, inadequate spacing and plain rotten spelling. Like so many others have told you.

[jitsu]

Jitsu, I do read the posts, hon. You're just damn near impossible to decipher because of rampant chatspeak, bad punctuation, horrible grammar, inadequate spacing and plain rotten spelling. Like so many others have told you.

really?then don't bother ur self with reading the horrible posts i wrote here....instead of saying that in every post u guys write...it is better to think of a better question or an answer to write.:)

[scorpio grl]

really?then don't bother ur self with reading the horrible posts i wrote here....instead of saying that in every post u guys write...it is better to think of a better question or an answer to write.:)
Jitsu, you keep stating your opinion-- in a way that's hard to understand, might I add-- and you keep asking us to see your point of view. But, when some comments on a how difficult it is to actually read and comphrehend your post, how to decipher it clearly, and then counters with their own points, you get extremely defensive and, quite frankly, annoying. Then you just said not to read your posts. That makes hardly any sense at all. You, yourself, also keep saying this is a discussion where people should say their opinions and we are. As my mother says, "There's two sides to every pancake", and we've seen both of them.

You keep saying that people are basically "attacking" you simply because you are the only one with a different opinion than the majority of this thread. But, if you look back to earlier posts, you can see there was at least one or two others who were against gay marriage as well. And no one's attacking you. Yes, I admit that Sceadu uses a bit more strong language than most, and her posts are a little on the aggressive side. That's true. But everyone else has only tried to politely inform you that you need to fix up your posts before you enter a serious discussion. Or at least they did until you became almost...angry because of this.

So, if you want this to be a logical thread where you can say your opinion freely, which it already is, then just fix your spelling and such. It's not all that hard, and when you do, people might actually understand what you're trying to say and show you their points of view politely.

[jitsu]

Jitsu, you keep stating your opinion-- in a way that's hard to understand, might I add-- and you keep asking us to see your point of view. But, when some comments on a how difficult it is to actually read and comphrehend your post, how to decipher it clearly, and then counters with their own points, you get extremely defensive and, quite frankly, annoying. Then you just said not to read your posts. That makes hardly any sense at all. You, yourself, also keep saying this is a discussion where people should say their opinions and we are. As my mother says, "There's two sides to every pancake", and we've seen both of them.

You keep saying that people are basically "attacking" you simply because you are the only one with a different opinion than the majority of this thread. But, if you look back to earlier posts, you can see there was at least one or two others who were against gay marriage as well. And no one's attacking you. Yes, I admit that Sceadu uses a bit more strong language than most, and her posts are a little on the aggressive side. That's true. But everyone else has only tried to politely inform you that you need to fix up your posts before you enter a serious discussion. Or at least they did until you became almost...angry because of this.

So, if you want this to be a logical thread where you can say your opinion freely, which it already is, then just fix your spelling and such. It's not all that hard, and when you do, people might actually understand what you're trying to say and show you their points of view politely.

well...since u r polite when u post ... that make me polite when i answer you.....that's mean i will consider what u said to me...ok if u think all that my language is very mysterious to all the members...i will do my best.....another thing is that i didn't join that threda inorder to make enemies,we r in the 21 century , this is just terrible to see some guys stick to their opinions with no changes,i swear that if one of the questions here was new on me i would just give it a thought and it could change my point of view not like every one could say that i'm stick on my opinion...well nothing is new i wish someone could just get a new question that make us all thinking for an answer.....thank you

[scorpio grl]

well...since u r polite when u post ... that make me polite when i answer you.....that's mean i will consider what u said to me...ok if u think all that my language is very mysterious to all the members...i will do my best.....another thing is that i didn't join that threda inorder to make enemies,we r in the 21 century , this is just terrible to see some guys stick to their opinions with no changes,i swear that if one of the questions here was new on me i would just give it a thought and it could change my point of view not like every one could say that i'm stick on my opinion...well nothing is new i wish someone could just get a new question that make us all thinking for an answer.....thank you
Alrighty then. Now we're getting somewhere.

{Btw, you're welcome.} And you know, that's how most people here feel about people who are against gay marriage. That has been going on for thousands of years, and even back then there were gay people; they just keot it hidden, ect. for the sake of not being completely humiliated, stoned, and/or killed.

Now, please explain to me, literately, why you are so against gay marriage.

[jitsu]

i'm not aggressive so u can forget the word literately with me cuz that's wt i'm..
and about my opinion in gay marriage na d y i'm against it...that will take a time i will say it in my next post cuz the computer seems to be busy with its own problems now ^^

[scorpio grl]

Your first sentence doesn't really make sense. Aggression is characterized by or tending toward unprovoked offensives, attacks, invasions, or the like; militantly forward or menacing and the like. Literately, in the way I meant it, means able to read and write well.
And that's fine.

[Sceadu]

Jitsu, you keep stating your opinion-- in a way that's hard to understand, might I add-- and you keep asking us to see your point of view. But, when some comments on a how difficult it is to actually read and comphrehend your post, how to decipher it clearly, and then counters with their own points, you get extremely defensive and, quite frankly, annoying. Then you just said not to read your posts. That makes hardly any sense at all. You, yourself, also keep saying this is a discussion where people should say their opinions and we are. As my mother says, "There's two sides to every pancake", and we've seen both of them.

You keep saying that people are basically "attacking" you simply because you are the only one with a different opinion than the majority of this thread. But, if you look back to earlier posts, you can see there was at least one or two others who were against gay marriage as well. And no one's attacking you. Yes, I admit that Sceadu uses a bit more strong language than most, and her posts are a little on the aggressive side. That's true. But everyone else has only tried to politely inform you that you need to fix up your posts before you enter a serious discussion. Or at least they did until you became almost...angry because of this.

So, if you want this to be a logical thread where you can say your opinion freely, which it already is, then just fix your spelling and such. It's not all that hard, and when you do, people might actually understand what you're trying to say and show you their points of view politely.
Well, I've lost all patience with him! A girl can only take so much!!

[jitsu]

Your first sentence doesn't really make sense. Aggression is characterized by or tending toward unprovoked offensives, attacks, invasions, or the like; militantly forward or menacing and the like. Literately, in the way I meant it, means able to read and write well.
And that's fine.
well i just remeberd..i wrote every thing i have in my mind b4,so if u read the posts,u will know what i have against the gay marriage.

Well, I've lost all patience with him! A girl can only take so much!!

wow that make me sound like a bad guy,i feel so special:D

[Multi-Facets]

I don't think the majority of us would agree "It's a sin" as a legitimate argument.

Isn't it weird? There are fanfic writers out there who love yaoi to the point of excluding all other kinds of 'fics and pairings, and yet we still run into people who say it's a sin, and therefore people who are gay should not be given any rights despite the fact they're human too.

It's hard for me to wrap my mind around.

[Mandysummers3]

I did an opinion paper at school on this and I want other people's opinion.

I think it is right because if you truly love someone, man or woman, why shouldn't you be allowed to be with them? Yes, many teens find it 'gross' or 'immorale' or anything else, but what's wrong with it?

Do you know how much pain homosexuals go through? Always having people make fun of them, treat them horribly, and put them down. To have another human being dislike another just because of their sexual interest is not right!

All citizens of the U.S. were giving the rights to Pursuit of Happiness. Why are homosexuals treated differently? Are they not Americans? Do they not deserve rights just as everyone else? Who are we to decide whom they should love?

Why can't people just mind their own business?!?

YOU ARE SO RIGHT! I feel the same! I am bisexual, and I have alot of friends who are gay, and they rock! So, people shouldn't hate them cause they love someone! People always put me down and I hate it. I'm SICK of everyone saying "It's wrong" they should all be punished, There's nothing wrong! and I am TIRED of it!

[HeavenlyXDemonic]

I'm bisexual, so I see nothing wrong with it. My girlfriend is lesbian. I get really hot under the collar when homophobs scream nasty comments to us. I have a lot of bisexual, lesbian, and gay friends...the thought of gay marriage makes me happier...I want to be happy too. My girlfriend is my world. I love her to death. Maybe if we stay together, we'll get married...but where I live...gay marriage is illegal...so it's a good thing we aren't living here forever...

[Daisuke]

I don't see whats wrong with gay marriages, just let people who love each other be together, no harm done, the more you complain the more of a stressful life you have so just let every be with whomever they want to be with.

[Thinkbluethoughts]

Well...

Some people are born with a chemical imbalance or whatever that makes their hormones different. I guess if you're born that way then you can't help it but I just don't know about gay marriage....I guess I just think it's kind of odd....-_-

[yoursweetestnightmare]

well, of course there are people who would support that and then there are the other people who are strongly religious people that think that their religion is right and more accurate so others shouldn't do anything that goes against their religion even if they dont believe in it. the whole thing about gay marriage is pretty much based on religion. the religion as to woman goes to man and man to woman. tht's how its supposedly supposed to be. that certain religion, i am not too fond of myself and dont believe in it. my opinion on this is that people can't help who they love, so let them love who they feel like they love. i could go on forever about this, but im only putting 1/4 of my effort into all i've just said...

[Kitty_Chan]

well, of course there are people who would support that and then there are the other people who are strongly religious people that think that their religion is right and more accurate so others shouldn't do anything that goes against their religion even if they dont believe in it. the whole thing about gay marriage is pretty much based on religion. the religion as to woman goes to man and man to woman. tht's how its supposedly supposed to be. that certain religion, i am not too fond of myself and dont believe in it. my opinion on this is that people can't help who they love, so let them love who they feel like they love. i could go on forever about this, but im only putting 1/4 of my effort into all i've just said...

I see you're point.

Yeah, it MAY seem weird to most people. I think that some of the time, it's just that they weren't introduced to it early enough. When I was four or so, I SOMEHOW figured out what sex was -_-U
Now, all my friends think it's 'icky'. :rolleyes: Personally, I don't think that. I mean, I'm not crazy about it, but I'm not gonna say:
Eww! I'm never having sex!

Whoops, I've gone off topic ^-^U

Anyway, I was introduced to homosexuality at a younger age than most people, and I've come to understand and support it.

[scorpio grl]

Well, I've lost all patience with him! A girl can only take so much!!
Sceadu: Well, I can completely understand that. ^^ My patience depends on my mood, so my fuse varies from short to infinite and inbetween. lol. Just try to take a deep breath and back away. This is over the internet and there's no reason to get so worked up about it; it's his opinion.

And yes, I know that to some people this subject is incredibly contraversial and important to them. Please don't think I'm being insensitive; I'm just saying that there's no sense in getting angry about some stranger, who you're extremely unlikely to meet, who believes something other than what you do.

Jitsu: I know that you've stated your opinion before in other posts, but 1: I'm too tired/lazy to go back and search for them, and 2: asked you to post them literately with no chatspeak, ect. They're immensely hard to understand as you've posted them.

Also, the bad guy comment: not funny. Really.

To all the others who have posted afterwards: Good for you all. I'm glad you express your opinions openly and I wish you the best, in relationships and otherwise. ^^

[jitsu]

lol i feel so lazy to write them all now,maybe i will write them later i swear to you ^^.

[scorpio grl]

Alrighty then, you do that.

[jitsu]

ok ok .... i cant write them now so i will tell u later....may be on a pm *yawn*

[scorpio grl]

Coolio. That sounds fine.

[jitsu]

i know it sounds cool not only fine ^^

[scorpio grl]

*Insert eyerolling here* Alrighty. Sure. Okay.