suicide

[RoseHipZero]

Do you guys think suicide is an optoin.
like most here, i've been bothered about the suicide threads and i tought lets have an serious discusion about it.

I don't think suicide is an option.
I can understand live is a real pain in the butt sometimes and there are always times that are bad or you feel depressed or something really bad has happend.
still i don;t think taking your live is an option.
We only live one time, i don;t think they realize that after your death, you're not going to come back, you never can cry again and never laugh or even breath.

[unloved_forever]

I also get bothered by the suicide threads.
I can however she why people would want to commit suicide, I only have time for people who are serious about it.

[RoseHipZero]

I also get bothered by the suicide threads.
I can however she why people would want to commit suicide, I only have time for people who are serious about it.

yeah.. me too
ofcourse live can be bad but there are also nice things witch they never can exprience again..
also they hurt alot more people with it then they know

[Randomgirl]

also they hurt alot more people with it then they know.

Which is why I think suicide is selfish. You're only thinking about your own pain & suffering. What about all the suffering you'll cause to the ones who loved you?? I really just can't see a good enough reason to end your own life.

[Dying-Living-Imortal]

honestly, if you plan on truly commiting suicide, you wouldnt be posting in on the internet....i mean really?!

[candygirl12]

uh this site is kinda weird i like it killing your self is stupid i mean why do it and your life might get better

[dark_angel_t]

"Don't worry about problems that CAN be solved and
don't worry about problems that CAN'T be solved"

That's all I had to say...

[RoseHipZero]

i agree with you guys, there all faking it if they say ''now i'm ganna shoot my self'' or ''i just cut myself..'' i always say if you really want to die, you don't talk about it, the ones who talk just need attention,

[unloved_forever]

If you really hate your life enough to kill yourself, you wouldn't think about how others would feel. You would just hope that they understand why you had to do it.

You also get to choose how, why and when you die.

[7000dominos]

Which is why I think suicide is selfish. You're only thinking about your own pain & suffering. What about all the suffering you'll cause to the ones who loved you?? I really just can't see a good enough reason to end your own life.

My point exactly. It frusterates me SO much. Like that guy who parked on a railroad track last year, then chickened out in the last minute, and ended up killing ten people on the train. UGH!!! sdfljsaklfjsdklfj;alk! That makes me SO angry! GAH!

Anyway, I know it sounds harsh, but I really don't have much pity for those who commit suicide. It's selfish and weak. Again, I know it sounds harsh, but that's the reality.

[RoseHipZero]

My point exactly. It frusterates me SO much. Like that guy who parked on a railroad track last year, then chickened out in the last minute, and ended up killing ten people on the train. UGH!!! sdfljsaklfjsdklfj;alk! That makes me SO angry! GAH!

Anyway, I know it sounds harsh, but I really don't have much pity for those who commit suicide. It's selfish and weak. Again, I know it sounds harsh, but that's the reality.
Well i kinda understand your point, and espaciale when other people are getting involved with it

[unloved_forever]

My point exactly. It frusterates me SO much. Like that guy who parked on a railroad track last year, then chickened out in the last minute, and ended up killing ten people on the train. UGH!!! sdfljsaklfjsdklfj;alk! That makes me SO angry! GAH!

Anyway, I know it sounds harsh, but I really don't have much pity for those who commit suicide. It's selfish and weak. Again, I know it sounds harsh, but that's the reality.
Yes, that example you gave is selfish. Killng other people is selfish but if you just kill yourself, I don't believe it is.

Commiting suicide isn't weak, its being strong enough to do what you want and ending your life when you want to!

[KitsuneNoKoi]

Oooo!Good idea for making this thread!
I think most people think of suicide as a way out.It bugs me,since like...it's mostly teenagers who are talking about it.But,I would like it if someone could actually say they have never even THOUGHT about suicide or any form of personal harm and be honest.I don't think anyone could do it.I think what most people don't get is that life has ups,life has downs,but they all end at some point.I think on here,it's all for attention.I doubt that anyone who has actually started a thread about would honestly do it.
I wouldn't say suicide is a cowardly way out,but I wouldn't say it's brave either.I think it just depends on the person.Some people could do it easily,but some can't.Like a few said on here,it's a selfish act.But,I also think that when you reach the suicide level,it's like all of your hormones and other feelings are effecting your judgement.I,personally,would never have the guts to kill myself.However,I'm sure a few people on this site could easily.And I'm sure it also doesn't help when people say crap like..."Oh!But,your soul will burn in Hell for eternity if you take your own life."I really don't think it matters to the person who would be commiting it.

[dark_angel_56]

Do you guys think suicide is an optoin.
like most here, i've been bothered about the suicide threads and i tought lets have an serious discusion about it.

I don't think suicide is an option.
I can understand live is a real pain in the butt sometimes and there are always times that are bad or you feel depressed or something really bad has happend.
still i don;t think taking your live is an option.
We only live one time, i don;t think they realize that after your death, you're not going to come back, you never can cry again and never laugh or even breath.

ppl who commit it must be living hell, but once they die they will regret it.
i think its wrong, those who are thinkin about killin themselves have to think of a way to work out the problem.

[yuki_101]

Do you guys think suicide is an optoin.
like most here, i've been bothered about the suicide threads and i tought lets have an serious discusion about it.

I don't think suicide is an option.
I can understand live is a real pain in the butt sometimes and there are always times that are bad or you feel depressed or something really bad has happend.
still i don;t think taking your live is an option.
We only live one time, i don;t think they realize that after your death, you're not going to come back, you never can cry again and never laugh or even breath.

you know i feel sorry somtimes no ones life is perfect no matter what you have, somtimes you probably wish you were som place else

[Randomgirl]

Yes, that example you gave is selfish. Killng other people is selfish but if you just kill yourself, I don't believe it is.

Commiting suicide isn't weak, its being strong enough to do what you want and ending your life when you want to!

Im sorry but I have to disagree.
If you just kill yourself, what about all the other people who care about you?? It's selfish to say, oh, my life is so terrible I'm in so much pain...blah, blah, blah. But when you kill yourself you could cause that same terrible pain to infect the one's who loved you the most.

And I do think suicide is weak. Being strong would be overcoming those problems. Suicide is just the easy way out.

[gaarahinata]

suicide is stupid, they might think no one cares for them!but there are ppl who care for them!
it might be some random peron but u have a life!
and life might not be fair but its good to stay ALIVE damnit!!

[broken inside]

yeah very stupid

[unloved_forever]

Im sorry but I have to disagree.
If you just kill yourself, what about all the other people who care about you?? It's selfish to say, oh, my life is so terrible I'm in so much pain...blah, blah, blah. But when you kill yourself you could cause that same terrible pain to infect the one's who loved you the most.

And I do think suicide is weak. Being strong would be overcoming those problems. Suicide is just the easy way out.
You shouldn't live your life for anyone but yourself.
If I commited suicide, I would hope that the very very few people who love me, would understand why I had to do it.

Everyone has their own opinions though :]

[broken inside]

yeah do pleople want to die in the first place...

[xxxlostsoulxxx]

My point exactly. It frusterates me SO much. Like that guy who parked on a railroad track last year, then chickened out in the last minute, and ended up killing ten people on the train. UGH!!! sdfljsaklfjsdklfj;alk! That makes me SO angry! GAH!

Anyway, I know it sounds harsh, but I really don't have much pity for those who commit suicide. It's selfish and weak. Again, I know it sounds harsh, but that's the reality.

Yeah killing yourself is really stupid but the sad thing is that 80 percent or something end up regreting what they did so after they pull the trigger, hang themselfs or what ever they do that 80 percent end up wanting to live and don`t want to die after they do those thing but they end up dieing anyway wanting to live so bad and take back what they did to me thats true pain

[broken inside]

people kill themselfs before they get to see how great life is. thats just really sad...

[unloved_forever]

people kill themselfs before they get to see how great life is. thats just really sad...
Not everyones life is great and perfect.

[RoseHipZero]

Not everyones life is great and perfect.

i agree, but killing yourself wont solve much to..
sometimes things has to be done, and you can't make the dissions yourself, but thats why we have friends and familie, and professionals, so there is always a way

[unloved_forever]

It's a way to escape the pain in your life that friends, family and even professionals can't help you with.

[RoseHipZero]

It's a way to escape the pain in your life that friends, family and even professionals can't help you with.

maybe.. but your unhappy and having pain cuz of something, and that can be helped, altrough on that moment you don;t see it and thats why there are other people to help

[Akai_Tenshi]

It's a way to escape the pain in your life that friends, family and even professionals can't help you with.

It may be a way for one person to commit suicide, but that will only make things worse. example: My uncle killed himself. I feel bad about it all the time and my 8 years old sister are asking why. My uncle's gf went crazy when she saw him dead, and...Gee how do I explain this...''Took a bite of him''? Is that right?...Whatever, He also had a son whos not even a year. The only one who got something good out of this was him. If he knew this I dont think he would've killed himself in the first place....
But thats just my thoughts of course :P

[unloved_forever]

It may be a way for one person to commit suicide, but that will only make things worse. example: My uncle killed himself. I feel bad about it all the time and my 8 years old sister are asking why. My uncle's gf went crazy when she saw him dead, and...Gee how do I explain this...''Took a bite of him''? Is that right?...Whatever, He also had a son whos not even a year. The only one who got something good out of this was him. If he knew this I dont think he would've killed himself in the first place....
But thats just my thoughts of course :P
I'm sure he would want his family to understand why he had to do it.

[Akai_Tenshi]

I'm sure he would want his family to understand why he had to do it.

But he didnt have to do it :P There isnt a reason good enough for commiting suicide.

[RoseHipZero]

But he didnt have to do it :P There isnt a reason good enough for commiting suicide.

there aren't any good resaons to commit suicide..
i can understand it trought in some situations, but i'm still agianst it

[Akai_Tenshi]

sometimes I may understand, sure, but still I can't help getting a little angry when I read about al those who kill themselves. Like few days ago, a guy killed himself because he was being bullied.

[RoseHipZero]

[I]sometimes[I] I may understand, sure, but still I can't help getting a little angry when I read about al those who kill themselves. Like few days ago, a guy killed himself because he was being bullied.

i ment also a real little Sometimes.. like when you are held by terrorist for a couple of years and stuff like that, ofcourse it makes me angry to, cuz the whole point of this is, you can't come back

[Akai_Tenshi]

i ment also a real little Sometimes.. like when you are held by terrorist for a couple of years and stuff like that, ofcourse it makes me angry to, cuz the whole point of this is, you can't come back

Yeah, but the terrorist thing is almost something else, because you would be friggin' scared. But when you kill yourself because someone call you a name, its just stupid.

[RoseHipZero]

Yeah, but the terrorist thing is almost something else, because you would be friggin' scared. But when you kill yourself because someone call you a name, its just stupid.

yeah then i could kill myself hundreds of times already, how many times i haven;t been looked at by those girls who think thy are everything and said i weas arroganta B8Tch ugly anything

[Akai_Tenshi]

yeah then i could kill myself hundreds of times already, how many times i haven;t been looked at by those girls who think thy are everything and said i weas arroganta B8Tch ugly anything

Yeah. People who has a problem with other being diferent is stupid too -.- Someone told me no one wanted to be friends with me. It makes me not trust people, but thats better than committing suicide :P

[RoseHipZero]

Yeah. People who has a problem with other being diferent is stupid too -.- Someone told me no one wanted to be friends with me. It makes me not trust people, but thats better than committing suicide :P

yeah.. its just stupid, to talk about other people nobody's perfect..
and just think every ((almost)) perblom can be solved

[Akai_Tenshi]

yeah.. its just stupid, to talk about other people nobody's perfect..
and just think every ((almost)) perblom can be solved

Yea, I think so too. It may seem hard when you're suicidical, but it helps to talk or something. Friends or family. They care about you and would help you if you needed to talk.

[RoseHipZero]

Yea, I think so too. It may seem hard when you're suicidical, but it helps to talk or something. Friends or family. They care about you and would help you if you needed to talk.

yeah they just loose sight of it and don;t see the good things and the ones who want to help, thats why they think live sucks and asll

[Akai_Tenshi]

yeah they just loose sight of it and don;t see the good things and the ones who want to help, thats why they think live sucks and asll

Yeah. It also annoyes me when people on DW post things like 'Im gonna kill myself' and stuff. It is very serious. If you wanna kill yourself you dont tell anyone.

[RoseHipZero]

Yeah. It also annoyes me when people on DW post things like 'Im gonna kill myself' and stuff. It is very serious. If you wanna kill yourself you dont tell anyone.

yeah it annoys me too, but its really true, people who seriously want to kill themselfs they shut up about it and just do it, the others just want elp

[Akai_Tenshi]

yeah it annoys me too, but its really true, people who seriously want to kill themselfs they shut up about it and just do it, the others just want elp

Yea, Its sad that someone is so desperate for help that they try to kill themselves.

[broken inside]

that is sad

[Akai_Tenshi]

that is sad

Yeah, but its even more sad if you don't know why.

[broken inside]

yeah thats true i just hate it when people kill themself just because things aren't going there way.

[Akai_Tenshi]

yeah thats true i just hate it when people kill themself just because things aren't going there way.

Yeah Its kinda weak.

[broken inside]

yeah it is they kill themselfs and then they can't see the good side of life.

[Akai_Tenshi]

yeah it is they kill themselfs and then they can't see the good side of life.

Yeah. And they ruin other peoples lives.

[broken inside]

yeah they do the make it harder for the people they loved to live there lives just because they thought no one cared.

[Akai_Tenshi]

Yeah. Like my uncle's gf. She went nuts when he committed suicide, because she broke up with him not long before.

[broken inside]

wow i bet she thought it was her falt, that would be horrible.

[Akai_Tenshi]

Yeah. I felt really sorry for her.

[Crave]

Yeah Im not gonna attempt or anything but most people talk about doing it and um what do you people think of it.
And again no im not gonna attempt or commit it or anything....
I've learned that commiting suicide effects the people you love and my God it sucks so bad to be on eof thode people effected

I have tried before though..I wont deny that but I think its not the best choice to make

[Dying-Living-Imortal]

Well, i can name about 13 people who have tried to commit over once, and yea. It hurts people around them, i guess they think that their lives are so horrible that maybe the world would be better if they just didnt live here...not true! I know...knew 2 people who did and it kills me and everyone who cared

[AlcTrCKaD]

Yeah Im not gonna attempt or anything but most people talk about doing it and um what do you people think of it.
And again no im not gonna attempt or commit it or anything....
I've learned that commiting suicide effects the people you love and my God it sucks so bad to be on eof thode people effected

I have tried before though..I wont deny that but I think its not the best choice to make

Really crave...you? Well, cant deny here, but you dont seem like the kind that would

[Neon]

Suicide:
RAAAAAAAGHHWWWWWWWWWGGGHHHH!!!

I think it is a cowards way out of life, and it shows how weak an pathetic you really are.
Personally, if a friend of mine commited suicide, I wouldn't be sad, I would be angry.
As for the people who post harm-yourself-threads...
I'm going to stop there.

[Crave]

Really crave...you? Well, cant deny here, but you dont seem like the kind that would

Yes even the almighty me jk
My mom killed herself and I tried before sooo yeah.

[AlcTrCKaD]

oh thats sad...i'm glad you didnt though....i know, like Dying, 13 people and 2 who did....and its not always a cowards way out of life
SCENARIO:

what if you were raised in an abusive family and told that if you told anyone you would be killed.....i wouldn't want to live in fear and denial for my life

[Crave]

oh thats sad...i'm glad you didnt though....i know, like Dying, 13 people and 2 who did....and its not always a cowards way out of life
SCENARIO:

what if you were raised in an abusive family and told that if you told anyone you would be killed.....i wouldn't want to live in fear and denial for my life

Yeah..Thanks Im glad I didnt too:) 'cause then I wouldnt get to annoy all the people I know...because that is what I was put on this earth to do...
Born,annoy everyone,and die
yep.

[candygirl12]

Yeah Im not gonna attempt or anything but most people talk about doing it and um what do you people think of it.
And again no im not gonna attempt or commit it or anything....
I've learned that commiting suicide effects the people you love and my God it sucks so bad to be on eof thode people effected

I have tried before though..I wont deny that but I think its not the best choice to makei know what you're talking about its kinda dumb but its not ppl fault if they wanna commit it its just the way they think of it like if your life is like hell first thing is to kill your self but last thing on your mind is how its gonna be when its going to be tough to go throw it

[Crave]

i know what you're talking about its kinda dumb but its not ppl fault if they wanna commit it its just the way they think of it like if your life is like hell first thing is to kill your self but last thing on your mind is how its gonna be when its going to be tough to go throw it

Yea I guess your right

[Nickoli]

Suicide:
RAAAAAAAGHHWWWWWWWWWGGGHHHH!!!

I think it is a cowards way out of life, and it shows how weak an pathetic you really are.
Personally, if a friend of mine commited suicide, I wouldn't be sad, I would be angry.
As for the people who post harm-yourself-threads...
I'm going to stop there.

I can understand where you would believe that. But you have to look at the psycological side of it. I know a lot about different mental 'illnesses' people suffer, such as depression, manic, bi polar disorder, etcetra.

First of all, to be pollitically correct, it is not "Committing Suicide", it is "Dying from Suicide," because the person who dies via suicide did not wake up and say, 'hey, lets end life just 'cause'.

There are a lot of things that go into the wanting to kill oneself. There is so much turmoile going on inside their head, that they cannot even bring themself to waking up in the morning.

So there is much more involved in dying by suicide, so before someone goes and talks about it, one way or the other, please, know your stuff.

[candygirl12]

Yea I guess your rightyup trust me i went throw this but i got over it

[AlcTrCKaD]

seriously...who hasnt gone through it...its like part of life i guess

[candygirl12]

seriously...who hasn't gone through it...its like part of life i guessNa its not not everyone thinks of it it just happens that's it i mean I'm a foster child

[Crave]

The very sucky part of life

[Nickoli]

The very sucky part of life

People can not help it. I understand that you do not approve of it, but you need to accept that people deal with different things than yourself.

Let me ask you something, have you ever been sexually, physically, emotionally and/or psycologycally abused to the point of feeling worthless?

Have you ever been given up on by everyone who is supposed to help you, doctors, psycologists, therapists, etc?

There are a lot of people out there who deal with all of this, and no one else knows about it.

You may feel it is sick, and there are a lot of people who agree, but instead of being so blunt, perhaps think about better ways to phrase it?

[candygirl12]

The very sucky part of lifemy father used to beat me then i pushed him down the stairs and broke his leg and called the cops on him i was a little sorry my mother didn't do anything abput it but watch when i pushed him she slapped me so i was took away from my parents

[AlcTrCKaD]

i agree with nickoli!

[Crave]

People can not help it. I understand that you do not approve of it, but you need to accept that people deal with different things than yourself.

Let me ask you something, have you ever been sexually, physically, emotionally and/or psycologycally abused to the point of feeling worthless?

Have you ever been given up on by everyone who is supposed to help you, doctors, psycologists, therapists, etc?

There are a lot of people out there who deal with all of this, and no one else knows about it.

You may feel it is sick, and there are a lot of people who agree, but instead of being so blunt, perhaps think about better ways to phrase it?
I just said its crappy that a lot of people go through it first of all and yes I have been ****ing sexually verbally and physically abused no one has ever gave up on me because no one ever gave me a chance does that answer your question?

[AlcTrCKaD]

I NOW GIVE YOU A CHANCE!!!
just dont die!

[candygirl12]

I just said its crappy that a lot of people go through it first of all and yes I have been ****ing sexually verbally and physically abused no one has ever gave up on me because no one ever gave me a chance does that answer your question?ok calm down all he was saying it was stupid i mean some of the ppl on here take it seriously i mean he said it was stupid some one who might commit suicide on here some ppl encourage ppl to do it

[Nickoli]

I just said its crappy that a lot of people go through it first of all and yes I have been ****ing sexually verbally and physically abused no one has ever gave up on me because no one ever gave me a chance does that answer your question?

I gave those examples not to make you angry. I'm sorry you took it that way. But I was raped by my brother for nine years, and no one in my family knew what to do when they found out, so they pretended it wasn't there.

I was suicidal for a year, and it was not because I was weak, it was because I had been through so much, that I could no longer handle life. It was a reliefe for me, the way some people feel exercise releives stress.

Again, I'm sorry I offended you.

[Nickoli]

ok calm down all he was saying it was stupid i mean some of the ppl on here take it seriously i mean he said it was stupid some one who might commit suicide on here some ppl encourage ppl to do it

If the he you were reffering to was me, I'm a girl...just so you know.

[Crave]

ok calm down all he was saying it was stupid i mean some of the ppl on here take it seriously i mean he said it was stupid some one who might commit suicide on here some ppl encourage ppl to do it

Yea....um ok
lmao
um sorry nickoli

[Nickoli]

Yea....um ok
lmao
um sorry nickoli

*gives you a big, safe hug*

I'm sorry you had to go through all that, by the way.

[Crave]

*gives you a big, safe hug*

I'm sorry you had to go through all that, by the way.

*hugs back*
And Im sorry you had to go through what you went through.

[deathbytexas]

Nickoli, I agree with you 100%.

I don't really know what to say on the subject of suicide, except that I've been there and I know how horrible it is. If anyone here feels like they need someone to talk to about it, feel free to PM me. Please don't hurt yourselves guys- it gets better.

[Neon]

I can understand where you would believe that. But you have to look at the psycological side of it. I know a lot about different mental 'illnesses' people suffer, such as depression, manic, bi polar disorder, etcetra.

First of all, to be pollitically correct, it is not "Committing Suicide", it is "Dying from Suicide," because the person who dies via suicide did not wake up and say, 'hey, lets end life just 'cause'.

There are a lot of things that go into the wanting to kill oneself. There is so much turmoile going on inside their head, that they cannot even bring themself to waking up in the morning.

So there is much more involved in dying by suicide, so before someone goes and talks about it, one way or the other, please, know your stuff.


Well, I used my friends as an example, beause, I KNOW they do not have some mental illness. And, I was mostly refering to people in this thread (site), that I know are the least likely to have a mental illness. Thus, my view on suicide for this site, is based on what I see here. Because I know, that a person with an mental illness would not be posting threads like that here (infact I don't even think they would be here). I have never been able to understand the concept behind a person willingly wanting to end their own life.
My personal belief (outside of this thread) is that even though some people go through tragedy, incest, rape, beatings, health issues and concern ect. There are always others who are worse off. So, I guess we are all involved in our own sad little problems, but even so, I would not give up life for that because it can always be better if you do something about it, killing yourself is not a way to make things better for me. So please, before you jump into conclusions ask me to clear things up. I guess it's my fault earlier for not doing so.


Yeah Im not gonna attempt or anything but most people talk about doing it and um what do you people think of it.

[Neon]

I can understand where you would believe that. But you have to look at the psycological side of it. I know a lot about different mental 'illnesses' people suffer, such as depression, manic, bi polar disorder, etcetra.

First of all, to be pollitically correct, it is not "Committing Suicide", it is "Dying from Suicide," because the person who dies via suicide did not wake up and say, 'hey, lets end life just 'cause'.

There are a lot of things that go into the wanting to kill oneself. There is so much turmoile going on inside their head, that they cannot even bring themself to waking up in the morning.

So there is much more involved in dying by suicide, so before someone goes and talks about it, one way or the other, please, know your stuff.


Well, I used my friends as an example, beause, I KNOW they do not have some mental illness. And, I was mostly refering to people in this thread (site), that I know are the least likely to have a mental illness. Thus, my view on suicide for this site, is based on what I see here. Because I know, that a person with an mental illness would not be posting threads like that here (infact I don't even think they would be here). I have never been able to understand the concept behind a person willingly wanting to end their own life.
My personal belief (outside of this thread) is that even though some people go through tragedy, incest, rape, beatings, health issues and concern ect. There are always others who are worse off. So, I guess we are all involved in our own sad little problems, but even so, I would not give up life for that because it can always be better if you do something about it, killing yourself is not a way to make things better for me. So please, before you jump into conclusions ask me to clear things up. I guess it's my fault earlier for not doing so.


Yeah Im not gonna attempt or anything but most people talk about doing it and um what do you people think of it.

[unloved_forever]

I have mixed views on it.
I personally think that it is the best way to die for the person who is dying, but not for their friends and family. You get to die when, where and how you want, but it is very hard for your friends and family to have to live with.
I also think that it is really pathetic when people make threads because they want attention by saying they are going to kill themselves. I do realise that not everyone who does that, does it for attention but it's really not the best way to try to overcome the want/need to commit suicide.

[Caoko]

I have mixed views on it as well.
'Cause yeah, as unloved said, the people on here that post threads about it, really just want attention. Not all of them, but a lot of them. And they don't tell what happened in their life, so we just assume they want attention. And when someone does say what's going on, it's usually something really stupid, like they're being ignored. I'm ignored all the time, and suicide has never even crossed my mind.

But on the other side of the spectrum, some people really have ****ty lives. Like, in my friend's case. His mother and him were the best friends ever. He wasn't real close with his father, because he spent all his time with his mom. So, then she died. And, he really just couldn't take it. He loved her more than anything, and just wanted to be with her. He just wanted to be held by his mom again, and know that she was there with him, and that'd she'd always be there to answer his questions. Luckily, though, his dad went in, before anything happened, so my friend is all good now and better.

But, people yeah, might want attention, or they might have ****ty lives, or they just wanna be with their loved ones.

[RisingDemon]

I believe suicide without reason, is..to repeat, without reason.
However, suicide where all other options have been tried and the person is without resources and the sheer will to go on in my opinion is acceptable so long as in their belief it would be better than whatever torment or status they are currently in.
I do not promote it, at the end of the day no one but them can decide, and the effects it has on their family should be on their own conscience, not mine, they should think primarily about it in my opinion, however much as I wish to control free will, i cannot, I am no deitie, but merely a mortal whose time will eventually come to pass, assasinated, suicide, or natural causes, it will come to an end.

[` O r a n g e]

Suicide.

I can see the reasons. But lets get realistic,
most people in America have no reason whatsoever to try to kill themselves..
because
they aren't the ones in countries like Rwanda
straving, getting shot, and staying awake the whole night in order to keep themselves alive.
They have a reason to end thier lives,
because the quality of thier life has dwindled to barely anything.

But people have a chance here.
Anyone who's commiting suicide because they don't have friends, or something like that doesn't have a logical reason.
Someone can always make thier life better.

"Unloved"?
No. That's not a reason either.
it's painful, but not as painful as other things.
Not as painful as starving to death.

So in short, don't do anything stupid.
There's no reason to wipe yourself from the face of the earth.
People love you.

[unloved_forever]

Suicide.

I can see the reasons. But lets get realistic,
most people in America have no reason whatsoever to try to kill themselves..
because
they aren't the ones in countries like Rwanda
straving, getting shot, and staying awake the whole night in order to keep themselves alive.
They have a reason to end thier lives,
because the quality of thier life has dwindled to barely anything.

But people have a chance here.
Anyone who's commiting suicide because they don't have friends, or something like that doesn't have a logical reason.
Someone can always make thier life better.

"Unloved"?
No. That's not a reason either.
it's painful, but not as painful as other things.
Not as painful as starving to death.

So in short, don't do anything stupid.
There's no reason to wipe yourself from the face of the earth.
People love you.


Some people obviously find reason in being unloved and such.
The people who are starving usually have more will to live and carry on with their lives because they are strong people.

[dead sephiroth]

not nessarly all the time

[Death-Soldier]

sorry that was ****ed up,im listen to deicide right now and that gets me in a funked up mood.

[nokvok]

Hrm... I'll have to split this up into two parts.
First, my very own view about life and suicide:
I would love to be immortal. Yes. Suicide is the very very last thing I can think of doing... and I've seen my share of grief in life, too. I just ended up concluding different things than others do.
That doesn't mean I am 100% convince I never would do it... cause I am convinced of nothing.

Second, my view on Suicides place in Society.
In my opinion, your life is your very very own business... how you live it, how you end it.
And I believe, that is a healthy society, there is no need to prevent people from dying from suicide... cause a healthy society would make sure that people do not do it on a whim or out of a mental illness.
And no, I do not judge anyone for attempting suicide or succeeding with it, it is not my business to tell other people if their lives are worth living or not.

[IWantFriends]

It's very sad that some people see suicide as their only option.
As long as there is Psychologists and friendly people who will listen to you, there shouldnt be a reason for anyone to kill themselves.
Of course, there are people who have issues, but no issue is big enough to be a reason for even thinking about suicide!
Some people have what Norwegians calls ''Bipolar'', Im not sure if thats the English name for it too...
Bipolar is an illness that makes you depressive, I mean really depressive, sometimes, and you do things without thinking.. I've read that people with Bipolar can comitt siucide in their depressive periode. There are medicine too, that can make you siucidal, which I find very sad...
Medicine that is supposed to make you better can make you worse..My sister uses that kind of pills against AD/HD, and she didnt try to kill herself, but she did cut herself.
Things like this just makes me sad.

[coeur]

I think it is narrow-minded to categorize suicide as good or bad, since suicide's role is largely determined by social and cultural ideals. In the Western world, suicide is very frowned upon, but in many Asian cultures, it is accepted as an honorable end. We cannot say that suicide is bad period. We can only say how we personally feel as an extension of social and cultural conditioning.

[2kitty65]

People that even THINK about committing suicide should get counciling RIGHT away! My sister ALMOST commit suicide, but her friend talked her out of it. And, just think about all the people that will miss her so much! Suicide should NEVER be an option.

[black_wreath]

What if someone decides they deserve to die?
Take Chris Benoit (who was one of my idols-and still is) he killed his wife and child in a suspected drug-induced rage then when he realised what he had done, committed suicide. He judged himself and gave the death sentence. Cowards way out? No-Benoit was a christian and believed in Hell. I think Chris was right to commit suicide in that sense. Just throwing it out there..

[kittan]

In a way I don't see way suicide is made to be such a big deal, I mean are people not commiting long term suicide when they smoke or over drink or when they do any other life shortening activity. And anyways anyone who actually does or tries to commit suicide is usually in a bad place or they're just in a whole lot of stress. Yeah death isn't the best way out, but if we can decide which doctor we can go to or where we live blah blah blah shouldn't someone have the right to decide when they die, I mean they do when there in a hospital on the edge of life and death, is that suicide?

And I heard about that thing with Chris Benoit, I thought it was really sad it made me want to cry :(

[XoX Venom Kisses XoX]

Most threads are just young children wondering the response of their peers when they announce they want to die.
Suicide is not chosen, it is when the pain of living outstands the coping hormones in ones brain. Only a spare few are really feeling low anough to do it and the fact that they write to tell the world they are means at least they still have a small glimmer of self doubt.
Many a time someone has thought of suicide or self harm but even fewer do it. I find it rather alarming though the rate of people who do self harm or think/commit suicide
Now you can say I have no idea whats its like and all the thoughts that run around a suicidel persons head, you can call me all the names under the sun and say I dont understand
Oh but I do
It still bothers me just how bad someone must feel to be able to commit suicide. It troubles me enough to stay awake at night and hope no one, other than this one person, will ever even think for a second of hurting themselves...Troubling indeed

[7000dominos]

Yes, that example you gave is selfish. Killng other people is selfish but if you just kill yourself, I don't believe it is.

Commiting suicide isn't weak, its being strong enough to do what you want and ending your life when you want to!

I think it's giving up. I think strength is persevering through whatever is happening.

I still hold to my former opinion, but I have to say in the light of recnt events, I can at leat understand WHY someone would commit suicide. I still don't approve, and I still think it's selfish and weak, but I suppose that for the most part if you're that far gone, you're not considering the feelings of your family and friends, or you just don't care. Still selfish, but comprehendable.

[black_wreath]

As far as the whole 'i'm feeling down-imma kill myself!' attitude I agree it is selfish and weak and normally my opinion would be 'good riddance-less weakness in the world'. But then I think about the people who cared for them and didn't deserve the pain of losing a loved one regardless of whether they were worth being loved and think of the people close to me who are suicidal and can't bring myself to think of them that way. Guess that makes me a hypocrite but really the issue just confuses the hell out of me.

[Akai_Tenshi]

I guess you really dont have the right to say ''Suicidal persons are weak'' before you are really suicidal and that low yourself. I am very low right now, and, this is gonna sound stupid, I understand suicide more. If you have so much pain, and just taking some pills or cutting yourself with a knife can end it, I understand why so many(many?? maby not that many..) see this as a shortcut to get rid of the pain.
I still mean that its wrong, eventohugh I have been thinking about it many time the past days, but I dont think its that weak anymore.
You can say, Suicidal persons who doesnt kill themselves, they are really strong..

[XoX Venom Kisses XoX]

I guess you really dont have the right to say ''Suicidal persons are weak'' before you are really suicidal and that low yourself. I am very low right now, and, this is gonna sound stupid, I understand suicide more. If you have so much pain, and just taking some pills or cutting yourself with a knife can end it, I understand why so many(many?? maby not that many..) see this as a shortcut to get rid of the pain.
I still mean that its wrong, eventohugh I have been thinking about it many time the past days, but I dont think its that weak anymore.
You can say, Suicidal persons who doesnt kill themselves, they are really strong..

I agree with oyu, most people say suicide is for the weak but really I think the suicidlel and selfharmers are stronger than anyone could ever be. They put up withthings in their life that would make others burst into tears and dwell themselves into a quivering heap.
Most people who feel low anough to think about suicide are the strong ones, because taking your own life cant be easy. Sure downing 49 tablets could be the 'weak' way out but think about what they put up with to get to that state.
Iv'e thought, Iv'e felt, I know
as before sorry for mis spelling

[7000dominos]

I agree with oyu, most people say suicide is for the weak but really I think the suicidlel and selfharmers are stronger than anyone could ever be. They put up withthings in their life that would make others burst into tears and dwell themselves into a quivering heap.
Most people who feel low anough to think about suicide are the strong ones, because taking your own life cant be easy. Sure downing 49 tablets could be the 'weak' way out but think about what they put up with to get to that state.
Iv'e thought, Iv'e felt, I know
as before sorry for mis spelling

That's not true. One, I think if they kill themselves, they're not "putting up with it", and two, how can one person say what would make others burst into tears? It varies by person. They might be putting up with being dumped by their bf/gf or with the death of their family. What seems like an insignificant porblem to one, might be like an emotional death sentence to another. That's the other part of being selfish. It bothers me that people think "this is absolutely the worst thing in the world. I am in SO much pain, and no one else would understand." It's a very selfish mindset to think no one else suffers as you do. How can you say that? My friend is going through some hard poo right now, and you would never know it, but I know other kids who've threatened to kill themselves because they were going through the same type of stuff. If they kill themselves, does that make them stronger? They're going through the same things, so if anything, they should be equally "strong." But my friend is the one who doesn't kill herself, doesn't even mope, and I respect her for that. I think that makes her stronger.

[7000dominos]

I guess you really dont have the right to say ''Suicidal persons are weak'' before you are really suicidal and that low yourself. I am very low right now, and, this is gonna sound stupid, I understand suicide more. If you have so much pain, and just taking some pills or cutting yourself with a knife can end it, I understand why so many(many?? maby not that many..) see this as a shortcut to get rid of the pain.
I still mean that its wrong, eventohugh I have been thinking about it many time the past days, but I dont think its that weak anymore.
You can say, Suicidal persons who doesnt kill themselves, they are really strong..

Exactly. I believe people who can continue even when they're in pain are stong.

I still think suicide is the easy way out, though.

And I like your sig...or at least the spiderpig song. That was my favorite part.

[Akai_Tenshi]

Exactly. I believe people who can continue even when they're in pain are stong.

I still think suicide is the easy way out, though.

And I like your sig...or at least the spiderpig song. That was my favorite part.

Yeah, I also think that suicide is the easy way out..

Heheh, thank you, I love that part too :3

[TamZ]

Suicide isn't an option, its the easy way out for people

[Akai_Tenshi]

Suicide isn't an option, its the easy way out for people

Of course suicide is the easy way out, but you gotta think about what these people who commits has been though..

[x~Melody~x]

maybe its a different religion. i meen, in some of them they believe that you are reborn as something else but it depends on how you hae been in this life. and maybe they just belive that they want to be reborn as something elese and end their life in this world. u never know

[Multi-Facets]

Speaking as someone who was suicidal when she was twelve, and off and on throughout adolescence to last year, I definitely think it should be reserved for the terminally ill, and the abused who, for whatever reason, can't help themselves get out of their situation, or fell through the cracks.

If any of my friends or relatives decided to take their lives, I most likely wouldn't be able to stop them, because if they were serious, like someone said, there'd be no warning. I'd be enraged, and I'd grieve like nothing else, but having been there myself, I'd understand why it was done.

I didn't slit my wrists or take a drug overdose simply because I'd miss everyone once I was gone. Not taking my life doesn't make me strong, I don't think. I just don't want to die. Like an LJ icon out there says, "I'm not afraid of death: It's the not being here any more that bothers me."

Life is good. But if someone thinks there's something better on the other side, well....

[black_wreath]

Well in my aggressive shaping up of my life i've shed the fat and dropped my 'suicidal friends'. I no longer care if they live or die, in fact part of me hopes they'll go through with it-then i'll know they weren't just seeking attention, they were seriously miserable. Either way they deserve it, i find the whole "I hate my life so i'll make everyone around me's lives worse" putrid. You can't help those people they can only help themselves and if they cant even do that then they'll just be a burden.

[Multi-Facets]

(nods) I understand that completely.

[7000dominos]

Speaking as someone who was suicidal when she was twelve, and off and on throughout adolescence to last year, I definitely think it should be reserved for the terminally ill, and the abused who, for whatever reason, can't help themselves get out of their situation, or fell through the cracks.

If any of my friends or relatives decided to take their lives, I most likely wouldn't be able to stop them, because if they were serious, like someone said, there'd be no warning. I'd be enraged, and I'd grieve like nothing else, but having been there myself, I'd understand why it was done.

I didn't slit my wrists or take a drug overdose simply because I'd miss everyone once I was gone. Not taking my life doesn't make me strong, I don't think. I just don't want to die. Like an LJ icon out there says, "I'm not afraid of death: It's the not being here any more that bothers me."

Life is good. But if someone thinks there's something better on the other side, well....

*shrugs* Not "strong" maybe. Just stronger.

[Multi-Facets]

*shrugs* Not "strong" maybe. Just stronger.

Thanks, but it's weird to think of myself that way. Like I said, it's the not being here any more part that bugs me. That's all.

[fighterkid]

Yesterday in Amsterdam( Holland) a very sad suicide attempt happened.

A woman wanted to commit suicide with her 1 year old child. So she went to a building , the 4th floor. And first she threw that child from the building and then she jumped.
The child did not survived it and the mother lies in the hospital, she's severly injured.

Well, she definetly will go to jail !!!


this made me very sad :(

[Thinkbluethoughts]

Yeah...there was this kid in my class who shouted, "suicide is a selfish, selfish thing to do!"

I felt angry when he said it, confused a little when I thought about it.

I've always seen suicide as not an option but someone's personal solution. It's a sad road to go down or even consider but when you're on that road it's hard to get off it. I know someone that isn't completely over her suicidal feelings. Everyday, all the time, she is afraid she's going to snap and do it. I'm afraid to lose her, but I can't get anyone to listen to her. Everyone thinks she's just doing it for attention, that she's selfish and inconsiderate. Weak-minded perhaps.

But I can't help think..."you've never been her. You don't what it's like...to feel something all the time...to feel like there's no hope in the world. To see the world through dim eyes...you can't possibly know what that's like unless you've been through it." It may not be the right thing to do...but no one else will listen to my friend...that haven't for a really long time. I just wonder how long she's got...sometimes...the days don't look prettier...and her time seems really short. Every time I talk to her I feel like I won't ever talk to her again. Not a soul cares. She's either emo or weak or whiny. But what will they all say when she's gone?

Can't help but wonder about it...

[Akai_Tenshi]

Yeah...there was this kid in my class who shouted, "suicide is a selfish, selfish thing to do!"

I felt angry when he said it, confused a little when I thought about it.

I've always seen suicide as not an option but someone's personal solution. It's a sad road to go down or even consider but when you're on that road it's hard to get off it. I know someone that isn't completely over her suicidal feelings. Everyday, all the time, she is afraid she's going to snap and do it. I'm afraid to lose her, but I can't get anyone to listen to her. Everyone thinks she's just doing it for attention, that she's selfish and inconsiderate. Weak-minded perhaps.

But I can't help think..."you've never been her. You don't what it's like...to feel something all the time...to feel like there's no hope in the world. To see the world through dim eyes...you can't possibly know what that's like unless you've been through it." It may not be the right thing to do...but no one else will listen to my friend...that haven't for a really long time. I just wonder how long she's got...sometimes...the days don't look prettier...and her time seems really short. Every time I talk to her I feel like I won't ever talk to her again. Not a soul cares. She's either emo or weak or whiny. But what will they all say when she's gone?

Can't help but wonder about it...

That's true, and it's really sad..
I have suicidal thoughts now and then (I know you don't belive me, because I probably wouldnt tell..), and its hell.
It's not fair to say that suicidal persons are weak or emo or whatever, because they dont try to kill themselves over nothing.
Just think about this; I know a girl who cries almost everyday, because of her mother!
Her mother is angry with her all the time, but the reason she cries, is because she thinks her mother hates her.
She tells herself that and hates herself for it. It sounds stupid, I know, but when you're going down that way, you start telling yourself these things.
This girl really wants out of life. She wants to die, but everytime she stands there with the knife, she ends up only giving herself a little cut. And then she hates herself even more.
She starts crying for nothing, and focusing on everytime she's alone. Her friends have other friends they're hanging with all the time, so she thinks she's not a good friend either.
I respect this girl, for putting out with it. I think she's strong and I hope she'll keep living for a very long time.
I think all suicidal persons need, Is someone telling them that they care, though they may not belive it now, they'll think of it later(I hope) and gaining just a little more faith.

[7000dominos]

Yeah...there was this kid in my class who shouted, "suicide is a selfish, selfish thing to do!"

I felt angry when he said it, confused a little when I thought about it.

I've always seen suicide as not an option but someone's personal solution. It's a sad road to go down or even consider but when you're on that road it's hard to get off it. I know someone that isn't completely over her suicidal feelings. Everyday, all the time, she is afraid she's going to snap and do it. I'm afraid to lose her, but I can't get anyone to listen to her. Everyone thinks she's just doing it for attention, that she's selfish and inconsiderate. Weak-minded perhaps.

But I can't help think..."you've never been her. You don't what it's like...to feel something all the time...to feel like there's no hope in the world. To see the world through dim eyes...you can't possibly know what that's like unless you've been through it." It may not be the right thing to do...but no one else will listen to my friend...that haven't for a really long time. I just wonder how long she's got...sometimes...the days don't look prettier...and her time seems really short. Every time I talk to her I feel like I won't ever talk to her again. Not a soul cares. She's either emo or weak or whiny. But what will they all say when she's gone?

Can't help but wonder about it...

But that's the selfish part of it. How do you know? Maybe they HAVE been through it, or worse. People's personal problems are objective. "Bad" is objective. What may make one person want to kill themselves may be nothing to another person. To think that you have it the absolute worst is selfish, and regardless of the issue, I think people who push through the hard times are incredible.

[chlois18]

Suicide... it's a terrible thing. Yet, some people see it as their only way out. Think about it; if you lost everything, and your only way out was through drugs or beer, you'd eventually even get sick of that (although, these horrid items drive people to suicide). It shouldn't be an option, but it is. The option of killing yourself is always open. It's terrible though, because once you commit yourself to it, there is no way out...

I believe that before even considering suicide, you should see a therapist Imediatly!!!

[Thinkbluethoughts]

But that's the selfish part of it. How do you know? Maybe they HAVE been through it, or worse. People's personal problems are objective. "Bad" is objective. What may make one person want to kill themselves may be nothing to another person. To think that you have it the absolute worst is selfish, and regardless of the issue, I think people who push through the hard times are incredible.

True she doesn't know. But how can I expect her to think beyond it? Some say it's selfish and they should consider the fact that there's someone out there suffering something a whole lot worse but the truth is...that's hard. To come off your road and say, "man. But someone else might be going through this too," or "my problem is extremely small compared to this person's". That's not an easy thing to do. Brave maybe, but not easy.

This reminds me of my grandmother. She was so stricken with grief when her daughter had died that she sort of drove herself to death. Not eating and letting herself get weaker and weaker. It wasn't suicide but in some ways I think it was. But just imagine if I had went to her and said, "eh, look at you. You know someone out there lost TWO daughters? Get over it and get through this, you'll be so much stronger in the end." I might think it was right but she wouldn't. I don't know the pain of losing a daughter. I may or may never. But I can't say a person's weak for being in their life and living their pain and then not being able to handle it. That's not fair. I just don't know them. Like I'm sure you don't know every person who's ever committed suicide. You say they're selfish for not acknowledging the fact that they're not alone but how can someone do that? How can someone just throw away their problems and think about others? If they do it I'm not saying it can be done easily. The truth is, even if they try it's hard.

I'll stop in a minute here, but that's kind of like...well...my mom can't feed me and my family a lot of the times. It drives her to tears and I know she gets depressed over it. But what if she suddenly said, "but there's someone else out there not eating. I shouldn't cry so much because I'm not alone." Even if that's true it's still not that easy to do that. I certainly wouldn't think my mother was selfish if she didn't give creed to every hungry family out there. It's not that she can't do it, or won't, but she has her own problems to deal with.

I sound confusing I know, but I guess the point I'm trying to drive home is that every individual has their own problems. Those problems can hurt so badly that they make you feel alone. They make you want to kill yourself. What may seem like a small problem to you could be a big problem to someone else. I don't know everybody, and you don't know everybody. So who are we to say who and who is selfish? Bad may be objective to you but can be totally subjective to someone else.

[black_wreath]

When someone decides to commit suicide out of despair, they aren't thinking about those around them, whom they will seemingly 'offload their pain onto', they're thinking about themselves and that's why people think it's selfish...

[Thinkbluethoughts]

When someone decides to commit suicide out of despair, they aren't thinking about those around them, whom they will seemingly 'offload their pain onto', they're thinking about themselves and that's why people think it's selfish...

true, but can they help but think of themselves? When you get a bad grade in school (assuming you are or aren't in school) do you think about other kids around you who may have gotten a bad grade also? It's not the same thing but it's their problem and they're constantly dealing with it. I know I sound like I'm advocating suicide but I'm not. I think someone should get help immediately but I also can see how a problem can be so tough that you want to die. I just think it's wrong for someone to say that people who commit suicide are weak when living in that problem is hard enough.

[chlois18]

When someone decides to commit suicide out of despair, they aren't thinking about those around them, whom they will seemingly 'offload their pain onto', they're thinking about themselves and that's why people think it's selfish...

Usually when somebody feels the compulsion to commit suicide, they usually don't have anybody who loves them or cares. That, in fact, is one of the many things that triggers the need to be nonexistant.

[Thinkbluethoughts]

Usually when somebody feels the compulsion to commit suicide, they usually don't have anybody who loves them or cares. That, in fact, is one of the many things that triggers the need to be nonexistant.

I sort of kind of agree with that. My friend has a very loving family, but like I said her problems cause her to feel lonely and isolated. A lot of suicide victims have loving families but their problems sort of blight them and they think they're all alone. Though, some people do commit suicide due to that fact that they have no family and that they have virtually no one in their lives.

[chlois18]

I sort of kind of agree with that. My friend has a very loving family, but like I said her problems cause her to feel lonely and isolated. A lot of suicide victims have loving families but their problems sort of blight them and they think they're all alone. Though, some people do commit suicide due to that fact that they have no family and that they have virtually no one in their lives.

True. Is her family aware of her problem? They should probably take her to a doctor/therapist, and possibly go on medication. That, or this girl needs to be mature enough to confront a trusted adult and tell them this (I know that at times, they aren't mature enough).

Whatever you do, don't confront your friend. This will only cause her to be angry. Just comfort her, and be there if she wants to open up to you.

I have a friend who has a serious depression and anorexic problems. She doesn't not eat because she wants to be thin, it's just her nature and a side effect of depression. Two days ago, she slept over and revealed to me that her grandpa died. She was very upset over it. Now, this may sound cheesy, but it does help to hug them. I told her that I loved her like she was my sister (even though I don't have any) and stayed up with her all night. Sometimes, physical activity (like hugging nothing else) can be really uplifting.

Basically, if people are aware somebody is disturbed, they should try to subtly reach out to them, and befriend them. Make them feel wanted.

[Thinkbluethoughts]

True. Is her family aware of her problem? They should probably take her to a doctor/therapist, and possibly go on medication. That, or this girl needs to be mature enough to confront a trusted adult and tell them this (I know that at times, they aren't mature enough).

Whatever you do, don't confront your friend. This will only cause her to be angry. Just comfort her, and be there if she wants to open up to you.

I have a friend who has a serious depression and anorexic problems. She doesn't not eat because she wants to be thin, it's just her nature and a side effect of depression. Two days ago, she slept over and revealed to me that her grandpa died. She was very upset over it. Now, this may sound cheesy, but it does help to hug them. I told her that I loved her like she was my sister (even though I don't have any) and stayed up with her all night. Sometimes, physical activity (like hugging nothing else) can be really uplifting.

Basically, if people are aware somebody is disturbed, they should try to subtly reach out to them, and befriend them. Make them feel wanted.

The girl has already told her parents. Honestly, she doesn't think they took her seriously. Her mother just thought it was all for attention but my friend really needs some help. She told me what goes on in her head and she really could use going to see a psychiatrist. Badly.

We've kind of drifted apart, she and I. I see her still but very seldom do we talk. We have days that we talk a lot and some days where we sit away from one another like were mad or something. She's hard to deal with and told me she feels that she doesn't deserve to be around other people. I may here from her tomorrow, or today, or who knows when. I just hope she will come to me or anyone and really pour her heart out. Lord knows she could use the release.

Oh, and thanks for your advice.:D

[hyperanimeluva12]

I know this might sound alittle bad, but, I cant help but think about what it would be like to die. I do understand why somepeople try and take their own lives. Sometimes life, depending on what happens to you , can become undbearable, and you think that is the only way out, and your not thinking rationally, and you dont want proffessional help like people tell you to get. You think " What could this stranger possibly do for me? I know, I've been Thinking of how it would be to die. Never have to deal with cruel people anymore. But i thought, yes you'd be escaping the bad, but you'd also be escaping the good. your friends. People that would really care about you. You know, I know people who have taken their own lives. Its on the news all the time. I've seen how families and friends react to stuff like that. You can cause other people to feel the same way you did by taking you life. I understand why people do it. I just dont think its the only option out there.:(

[TheWeave007]

Do you guys think suicide is an optoin.
like most here, i've been bothered about the suicide threads and i tought lets have an serious discusion about it.

I don't think suicide is an option.
I can understand live is a real pain in the butt sometimes and there are always times that are bad or you feel depressed or something really bad has happend.
still i don;t think taking your live is an option.
We only live one time, i don;t think they realize that after your death, you're not going to come back, you never can cry again and never laugh or even breath.

For some, suicide is the only option, in my opinion.

When your family hates you and wants to abuse you, when your friends turn their backs on you and glare at you, when everyone on Myspace/Facebook/AIM/MSN blocks you, when all you have is music that reminds you how much the world has hurt you in the past second, minute, hour, day, week, month, year, or lifetime, when it's night time and all you have to think about is how to end the pain, that is when suicide seems logical to some. Some are too afraid to 'do the deed', so they start with cutting. The cutting becomes numbing, and the pain is alleviated for some time. Then the pain comes back. And it feels worse than ever. It becomes consuming, until the darkness in your soul corrodes your mind. Until suicide becomes logical again. Then you remember that cutting didn't work long enough. So what will, you ask yourself? Death. How do you die when nobody will murder you because it's illegal? Well you can't go to jail when you're dead, so it leaves you as the only one capable of doing it. It becomes rationalized. Then you take your weapon of choice, and go for it...

That's how it happens some of the time (if not most of the time). Trust me, I've been there. I've felt that. I've survived. Suicide is only an option when there's no options left.

[black_wreath]

For some, suicide is the only option, in my opinion.

When your family hates you and wants to abuse you, when your friends turn their backs on you and glare at you, when everyone on Myspace/Facebook/AIM/MSN blocks you, when all you have is music that reminds you how much the world has hurt you in the past second, minute, hour, day, week, month, year, or lifetime, when it's night time and all you have to think about is how to end the pain, that is when suicide seems logical to some. Some are too afraid to 'do the deed', so they start with cutting. The cutting becomes numbing, and the pain is alleviated for some time. Then the pain comes back. And it feels worse than ever. It becomes consuming, until the darkness in your soul corrodes your mind. Until suicide becomes logical again. Then you remember that cutting didn't work long enough. So what will, you ask yourself? Death. How do you die when nobody will murder you because it's illegal? Well you can't go to jail when you're dead, so it leaves you as the only one capable of doing it. It becomes rationalized. Then you take your weapon of choice, and go for it...

That's how it happens some of the time (if not most of the time). Trust me, I've been there. I've felt that. I've survived. Suicide is only an option when there's no options left.

That was complete bullsh*t, there are always options, that's a cowardly surrender.

[haseo592]

Suicide is never an option no matter how life is treating you. I've had a sister who tried to commit suicide more than once. Life is better for her now and she hasn't tried to commit suicide since life got better for her. I don't know what I'd do if my sister had succeded in commiting suicide because we're both real close to each other.

[TheWeave007]

That was complete bullsh*t, there are always options, that's a cowardly surrender.

Did I mention when therapy doesn't work, and your other options will scar you for life?

[black_wreath]

Did I mention when therapy doesn't work, and your other options will scar you for life?

Nobody said the healing process is easy, but problems have to be faced. You can't just run away.

[TheWeave007]

Nobody said the healing process is easy, but problems have to be faced. You can't just run away.

What if people who care about you turn away from you and the problems, when fixed, make you empty inside

[black_wreath]

What if people who care about you turn away from you and the problems, when fixed, make you empty inside

Then who needs them? F*ck family,friends and 'counselors'! When it comes down to it, the only one who can allow you to feel better is yourself.

[dead sephiroth]

who are we to judge if it's right or wrong frankly it's there choice.

[coeur]

Frankly, I would agree that suicide is indeed a magical trapdoor in which all of your problems would be solved and no new problems would arise--because you'd be dead. Unless, of course, if there is an afterlife. You would be especially f*cked if the Christian afterlife existed. According to Dante, you spend the rest of eternity as shrubbery whose twigs/branches would be torn off by bypassers; then, after the Final Judgment, your human body will be hung on one of your twigs/branches for you to view for the rest of eternity [after the Final Judgment]. This is also in Hell, where everyone will be perpetually miserable. So. Not the greatest prospect--perhaps we should hope that Dante's vision of Hell is just false advertising.

All in all, I am not going to disagree with the usefulness of suicide as a means of 'ending all your problems,' but I would also say that suicide is probably one of the most proud, egocentric, and cowardly things to do.

In 1945 the city of Dresden was firebombed by the Allied forces. It is estimated that 4,500 tons of explosives were dropped on the city resulting in 24,000 to 40,000 civilian deaths. Kurt Vonnegut was a prisoner of war in Dresden at the time of the firebombing. He was only one of seven American soldiers to survive the firebombing of Dresden--because his prison site was an underground slaughterhouse. He was then forced to gather the corpses of the dead by the Nazis, and after they realized they could not bury the bodies, was sent with flamethrowers to disintegrate the dead into ashes.

Kurt Vonnegut, after being freed by the Red Army, later became one of the most influential American novelists in the 20th century. Not only that, but he is one of the most humorous ones to read.

Now, if Vonnegut could live through being captured by Nazis, the firebombing of Dresden, and cleaning up all those corpses and then laugh about it...then there's no reason for anyone to just off themselves because their boyfriend broke up with them or their parents divorced.

I'm sure it's bad and miserable--but can you really say that it's as miserable as being firebombed?

[7000dominos]

true, but can they help but think of themselves? When you get a bad grade in school (assuming you are or aren't in school) do you think about other kids around you who may have gotten a bad grade also? It's not the same thing but it's their problem and they're constantly dealing with it. I know I sound like I'm advocating suicide but I'm not. I think someone should get help immediately but I also can see how a problem can be so tough that you want to die. I just think it's wrong for someone to say that people who commit suicide are weak when living in that problem is hard enough.

I realize that's it's difficult. Which is why I'm saying that people who don't commit suicide are stronger, less selfish, you know?

Usually when somebody feels the compulsion to commit suicide, they usually don't have anybody who loves them or cares. That, in fact, is one of the many things that triggers the need to be nonexistant.

Actually, it's usually that they think they don't have anybody who loves them or cares. They are so focused on their pain that they don't even realize what they could be doing to others around them. That, in fact, could be part of the 'selfish' issue. Does that make sense?

[evanscense4]

Suicide in my opinion is a blinded way in people's eyes to be freed.

There have been plenty of times when I myself have almost committed suicide,but as tough and painful as life can be,there's always something holding me back.Does that make me stronger or weaker?I'm afraid of pain yet I've caused myself pain.Pretty stupid huh?

I wanna stop these 'moments' when I feel like committing suicide but I don't want anyone to know.So far,only my older sister knows I've tried.I wanna quit without anyone besides my sister finding out,meaning not going to a shrink or anything like that.Is that possible?...

[7000dominos]

Maybe if you delete that post.....This is the world wide web.

And it depends on what kind of "problems" you're having. *shrugs* I talk to my friends when I'm bummed.

[dead sephiroth]

ok suicide is like free but very painful way to go. i've also lost friends to od type suicide.

[TheWeave007]

Maybe if you delete that post.....This is the world wide web.

And it depends on what kind of "problems" you're having. *shrugs* I talk to my friends when I'm bummed.

I'm feeling the same ways as the one you're replying to. Talking to my friends I barely have doesn't work...is there any better advice?

[black_wreath]

Why don't you try not looking to others for help and look for help in yourself?

[TheWeave007]

Uhm...kay....I'll try...

[7000dominos]

I dunno...I guess if you trust yourself. For me, its all about letting go of my pride, getting off my high horse--I HATE telling people about my issues--and talking to my friends. It's hard, but if you really wanna help yourself, sometimes you have to make sacrafices.