Sexual Orientation.

[unloved_forever]

Do you think it's right for people to not be straight?
Do you think that people should be allowed to say negative things about it, such as in class discussions?
I've been in a few classes where we've been discussing sexual orientation and I got quite hurt by the things some people were saying about gay/bi people as they were being really mean.

So what are your views on any of this?

[koori*the*emo*angel]

i think that people should be able to love whoever they want to be in love with and its not right to laugh at them.

[kiki26:)]

being gay/bi isn't wrong(i'm not but there isn't anything wrong with it)
people can be what they want.psh, if people have a problem with it then screw/f*ck them!

[unloved_forever]

being gay/bi isn't wrong(i'm not but there isn't anything wrong with it)
people can be what they want.psh, if people have a problem with it then screw/f*ck them!
I agree.
It's messed up when people try to use your orientation as a way of trying to insult people. If someone is gay, they are obviously not bothered by and and so musn't have a problem with it and therefore would not find it insulting.

[kiki26:)]

I agree.
It's messed up when people try to use your orientation as a way of trying to insult people. If someone is gay, they are obviously not bothered by and and so musn't have a problem with it and therefore would not find it insulting.

a friend of mine is gay and i like hanging out with him.People that are bi/gay are like everyone else,right? they just like girls and boys if u're bi and if you're gay you like girls/guys.

[unloved_forever]

a friend of mine is gay and i like hanging out with him.People that are bi/gay are like everyone else,right? they just like girls and boys if u're bi and if you're gay you like girls/guys.
Yeah, theres no difference whatsoever between someone who is straight/bi/gay so I see no reason why people feel they need to be mean to them and treat them differently!

[koori*the*emo*angel]

my mom said that she had a gay friend and she said he was a great friend.

[helpme848]

Who cares if you're gay or bi or straight.
You love who you love, it's the way you are. <3

[unloved_forever]

Who cares if you're gay or bi or straight.
You love who you love, it's the way you are. <3
Yep, thats totally true.

[Dying-Living-Imortal]

bi/straight whatever...we're all people arent we?

[unloved_forever]

Most people on here seem to be fine with bi/gay people.
I don't see what peoples problems are.

[deathbytexas]

I'm bi... I don't let it bother me when I hear people express dissapproval of it... it's their right to feel that way, just like it's my right to love whomever I choose.

[nyle91]

I was watching the colbert report the other day and one of the stories was that some guy said the being gay was a disease and there was a way to stop it by putting patch on your arm when you are pregnant...How ignorant do you have to be to say that!?

[koori*the*emo*angel]

i know its again like being racist/profiler/labler...etc it sickens me

[Tracia]

No, it's not right. If we were to be homosexuals, there wouldn't be two kinds of the same species in a first place. If we were to reproduce by asexual manners, there wouldn't be two kinds of the same species... Females are for males and Males for females. The fact that now is becoming at certain level "socially acceptable" doesn't make it right, but as far as I'm concerned, you can fukc whoever you please.

[deathbytexas]

No, it's not right. If we were to be homosexuals, there wouldn't be two kinds of the same species in a first place. If we were to reproduce by asexual manners, there wouldn't be two kinds of the same species... Females are for males and Males for females. The fact that now is becoming at certain level "socially acceptable" doesn't make it right, but as far as I'm concerned, you can fukc whoever you please.


LOL The world’s overpopulated anyway. I can't speak for all homosexuals, but for the record, I don’t “fukc” anybody.

[Nickoli]

I agree with most of you. Not being straight myself, I think that if you find someone who cares about you for who you are, and you can return those feelings, it doesn't matter that you follow the Catholic church's views of "correct" or "lawful". Love is love. Period.

[dark_angel_t]

No, it's not right. If we were to be homosexuals, there wouldn't be two kinds of the same species in a first place. If we were to reproduce by asexual manners, there wouldn't be two kinds of the same species... Females are for males and Males for females. The fact that now is becoming at certain level "socially acceptable" doesn't make it right, but as far as I'm concerned, you can fukc whoever you please.

It's not "right"?...
Who can say what is "right" and what's "wrong"? This is totally subjective. But, anyway, if you think that being gay or bi is a problem, what would be the "solution"?

[Caoko]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay/bi. Really, it's something your born with. You can't decide if you're gay. It's in your DNA, or something, that you will be that way, so to say that being gay is wrong is just stupid. We can't do anything about it. We feel the way we feel because we were born that way.

I hate how the world is so... against gay people. Like, in my state, they're talking about banning gay marriage. I don't know if they've passed anything or not, but they're talking about it. The congress is. What's so bad about loving your own gender over the opposite gender? Nothing. Love is love. Period. We can't decide who we like or don't like. Something inside us just decides. Same with straight people.

I was in class a while ago, and the subject came up. So, someone said something about girls liking girls and everyone was just, fine, then it was guys liking guys, and everyone was like, "EWW!" I don't get it. It's pretty much the same thing. Maybe it was just because it was a male populated class. Only a few girls, whom didn't all say anything, and mostly just the guys did.

It kinda is just like being racist. Pushing out a certain group of society and saying, "We don't like them because they like the same gender." It's stupid and really has no point whatsoever. Just because we see things from a different perspective.

[Caoko]

I am quoting my wonderous fiance on this... with the whole... DNA or something stuff.

Let's start off with the fact that, I don't know, let's see...
when one is concieved by his/her parents, that one person has no choice over how thier mind is going to develop. A couple of weeks after development in the womb, that individual's amounts of testosterone are set, and so are thier levels of estrogen. These two factors affect the centers of the brain that control who and what the individual will like, love, and become intimate with.
So, want me to translate that for you?
It means..
One has no choice to become a homosexual.
No, it's not a choice.
I will not go to hell.
(Well, maybe if I shoot someone, but I wouldn't do that.)
I'm sorry for those who think it is a choice.
You could put a little gay boy on an island with girls from the second he was born..
and no matter how much he tried, he wouldn't fall in love.
Being gay is not a way to strike back at one's father, or society... at least not in most cases.
It's something that is part of someone.
You can't change your eye color, now can you?

[unloved_forever]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay/bi. Really, it's something your born with. You can't decide if you're gay. It's in your DNA, or something, that you will be that way, so to say that being gay is wrong is just stupid. We can't do anything about it. We feel the way we feel because we were born that way.

I hate how the world is so... against gay people. Like, in my state, they're talking about banning gay marriage. I don't know if they've passed anything or not, but they're talking about it. The congress is. What's so bad about loving your own gender over the opposite gender? Nothing. Love is love. Period. We can't decide who we like or don't like. Something inside us just decides. Same with straight people.

I was in class a while ago, and the subject came up. So, someone said something about girls liking girls and everyone was just, fine, then it was guys liking guys, and everyone was like, "EWW!" I don't get it. It's pretty much the same thing. Maybe it was just because it was a male populated class. Only a few girls, whom didn't all say anything, and mostly just the guys did.

It kinda is just like being racist. Pushing out a certain group of society and saying, "We don't like them because they like the same gender." It's stupid and really has no point whatsoever. Just because we see things from a different perspective.
I was in a class like that too.
In the end, the teacher stopped everyone from giving their views on homosexuality. But then everyone was talking about people being bi and were saying really mean and hurtful things.
I didn't think it was right that the teacher was allowed to let this go on, she didn't know if anyone in my class was gay/bi. It's just the same as letting people make racist comments when there is someone of a different race in the class. It's no different, right?

[Caoko]

I was in a class like that too.
In the end, the teacher stopped everyone from giving their views on homosexuality. But then everyone was talking about people being bi and were saying really mean and hurtful things.
I didn't think it was right that the teacher was allowed to let this go on, she didn't know if anyone in my class was gay/bi. It's just the same as letting people make racist comments when there is someone of a different race in the class. It's no different, right?

Exactally. It's completely the same. People are more ok with different races, though, because you can tell from skin color. And so if there is one African American in a class full of white people, they probably wouldn't say anything mean, because they can tell. But with gay/bi people, you can't tell unless they tell you. So, they're more likely to get attacked since no one really knows if they're gay/bi or not.

[Drashian]

I think nobody's speaking against gay/bi here because nobody wants to be attacked by rabid liberals :D.

I'm bi, and I'm bothered by the insults thrown about. I mean, it doesn't make me think that I need to change it, because I know I can't, but I'm still bothered and as such are not open about it.

I have a guy who has come up with a list of reasons why I'm "totally" a lesbian. All of these are direct quotes.

1. I sit funny
2. I have stuffed animals
3. The bed I sleep in
4. I don't have a boyfriend

I especially like #3...

[Neon]

I'm straight.
But, I see nothing wrong with bi/homosexual people. It's just what makes them most comfortable to be around with?
Tracia: Are you catholic or christian? If so, I see where your coming from.

[dark_angel_56]

being gay/bi is wrong in my religion, but i dont discrimate people becaue of that, i just let them be...

[NATIVE:)CHICK]

There is a time when we need to have a person it can be a gurl or a guy. but for me it is a gurl. im trying to find sum1 to be with and love me but they are hard to find i really want to find sum1 that is good to me and love me i hope that i will find that person and im bi and im proud to being bi

[unloved_forever]

Exactally. It's completely the same. People are more ok with different races, though, because you can tell from skin color. And so if there is one African American in a class full of white people, they probably wouldn't say anything mean, because they can tell. But with gay/bi people, you can't tell unless they tell you. So, they're more likely to get attacked since no one really knows if they're gay/bi or not.
Yes exactly.
If there was someone of a different race in your class, you wouldn't be allowed to make racist comments.
So it shouldn't be any different for people making mean gay/bi comments.

[Caoko]

Yes exactly.
If there was someone of a different race in your class, you wouldn't be allowed to make racist comments.
So it shouldn't be any different for people making mean gay/bi comments.

Exactally! Just because you can't tell if someone is gay/bi just by looking at them, doesn't mean you can just go off and say rude comments about them.

[Nickoli]

I think nobody's speaking against gay/bi here because nobody wants to be attacked by rabid liberals :D.

I'm bi, and I'm bothered by the insults thrown about. I mean, it doesn't make me think that I need to change it, because I know I can't, but I'm still bothered and as such are not open about it.

I have a guy who has come up with a list of reasons why I'm "totally" a lesbian. All of these are direct quotes.

1. I sit funny
2. I have stuffed animals
3. The bed I sleep in
4. I don't have a boyfriend

I especially like #3...

Thats terrible you have to get crap for who you are. All my friends know about my orentation, and sometimes even joke about it, like I'll over hear one of the guys saying he needs a girlfriend, so I'll suggest to go cruising for chicks with him.

It may be the school I go to, where everyone (okay, except potheads) are accepted, or it may be the fact that I don't let that stuff get to me.

About middle of this year, this girl freaked out, because she was afraid lesbianism was contagious or something, so I got all defiant, and from that point on, no one gives me serious crap.

[Tracia]

I'm cristian, but... knowing where I come from?? .. okay, whatever.

Love is love. Period.
I agree. But Love is asexual by itself and is unrelated to sexual orientations. I love my mom. I love my sister. I love my neighbor's daughter. I love my friend Shinya (a little too much maybe). Love is for everyone. Being inlove with someone your same sex is different.

Yes. Is wrong for the reasons I just exposed and for religious believes I won't say here, but I'm not trying to give "solutions" of any kind to a problem that's not my own.

No, probably it's not a choice, but that is not gonna save your from hell....

About respect and all that ****, I hve no problems with people being gay. Three of my best friends are gay!!! But it's their problem, not mine. We're all cool.

[unloved_forever]

Exactally! Just because you can't tell if someone is gay/bi just by looking at them, doesn't mean you can just go off and say rude comments about them.
People doing that really annoy me! It's really mean and there is no need to do that to people just because you don't agree with who thet are.
I went away this weekend and had to put up with my parents making rude comments about people being gay/bi. Firstly they started off being mean about some gat guy in a band, then they were laughing and being really mean about these two girls who were holding hands and kissing. It made me really angry, but I don't have the confidence to say anything.

I'm cristian, but... knowing where I come from?? .. okay, whatever.

Love is love. Period.
I agree. But Love is asexual by itself and is unrelated to sexual orientations. I love my mom. I love my sister. I love my neighbor's daughter. I love my friend Shinya (a little too much maybe). Love is for everyone. Being inlove with someone your same sex is different.

Yes. Is wrong for the reasons I just exposed and for religious believes I won't say here, but I'm not trying to give "solutions" of any kind to a problem that's not my own.

No, probably it's not a choice, but that is not gonna save your from hell....

About respect and all that ****, I hve no problems with people being gay. Three of my best friends are gay!!! But it's their problem, not mine. We're all cool.
I do understand what you're saying and I believe that everyone is allowed to express their own opinions (in a none mean way), but there are different kinds of love.
You love your sister and your brother, both the same, in the same way yet they are different sexes, you love your mother and father, the same, in the same way and yet again they are different sexes. If your best friend is male, you love him the same as you would if he was female. So you can then love someone the same sex as you more than/just the same as you do with someone of the opposite sex.

[Thinkbluethoughts]

The way I look at: I mean some people can't control their sexual desires. Like a guy that feels like a girl on the inside. Is that his fault? He was born that way. Or she. Whatever. The point is no one be beat or ridiculed for something like that. What about people who are racist in this world? How come no one comes down on them as hard as they come down on gays?

[Tracia]

I do understand what you're saying and I believe that everyone is allowed to express their own opinions (in a none mean way), but there are different kinds of love.
You love your sister and your brother, both the same, in the same way yet they are different sexes, you love your mother and father, the same, in the same way and yet again they are different sexes. If your best friend is male, you love him the same as you would if he was female. So you can then love someone the same sex as you more than/just the same as you do with someone of the opposite sex.

Hello!! And what did I just say??
I hate english....

[unloved_forever]

Hello!! And what did I just say??
I hate english....
No, what you were saying was that being inlove with someone of the same sex is different.
What I said is that you can be inlove with someone of the same sex, the same as you can be with someone of the opposite sex.

[7000dominos]

Do you think it's right for people to not be straight?
Do you think that people should be allowed to say negative things about it, such as in class discussions?
I've been in a few classes where we've been discussing sexual orientation and I got quite hurt by the things some people were saying about gay/bi people as they were being really mean.

So what are your views on any of this?

I'm getting sucked in and this is going to be bad for me...I'm just gonna say I don't judge gay people, and I don't have a problem with them. I have many gay friends, and I love them all dearly.

But...

And I'll leave it at that.

[Kynt]

AggggrrraaaahHHH!!
Hi. I'm gay. ^^
So of course my opinion would be it's not wrong.
BUT, growing up in a religous background, I can see why some people may see it as wrong. It goes against their religion.
I respect everyone's opinion, no matter what it is.
But, this is just mine.
K? Thanx.

[unloved_forever]

AggggrrraaaahHHH!!
Hi. I'm gay. ^^
So of course my opinion would be it's not wrong.
BUT, growing up in a religous background, I can see why some people may see it as wrong. It goes against their religion.
I respect everyone's opinion, no matter what it is.
But, this is just mine.
K? Thanx.
That's cool.
See, the reason I made this was because I knew a few people on here think that it's wrong, but in other discussions like this, they've just been argueing and shouting. So I think it's good that everyone is giving their views without having to worry about what other people are going to say about what they think.

[Caoko]

Yeeeah. I had this one girl like, PM me, asking why my profile said I was gay, and then said that it was completly wrong, and disgusting. Dx Pissed me the **** off.

[unloved_forever]

Yeeeah. I had this one girl like, PM me, asking why my profile said I was gay, and then said that it was completly wrong, and disgusting. Dx Pissed me the **** off.
A few people did that to me when I had that I was bi in my profile.
It actually made me really upset, so after that I took it out because I had at least 5 people being really mean to me because of it!

[Kynt]

Mean much?
I think we should ALL respect each other's sexual orientation.
Whether others believe it's wrong or not, the least they could do is respect us a human beings and not be jerks about it.

[unloved_forever]

Mean much?
I think we should ALL respect each other's sexual orientation.
Whether others believe it's wrong or not, the least they could do is respect us a human beings and not be jerks about it.
That's totally true.
I love your sig by the way :]

[Caoko]

Mean much?
I think we should ALL respect each other's sexual orientation.
Whether others believe it's wrong or not, the least they could do is respect us a human beings and not be jerks about it.

Yeeah. I mean, if you don't like anything, just don't say anything about it. Leave us alone, y'know?

@ Unloved :: I hate it when people just go out of their way to say that what we're doing and what we like is wrong. It's so annoying. In another case, I was talking to this one girl who is a friend of my friend. And she's all religious. So, she made this big huge ****ing deal about me being gay. Like, she didn't mind me, but, the fact that I liked guys just erked her.
So I made a complete ass of her and made my friend tell her things. Like, you know how 'God hates Gays. There's that whole passage thing or whatever about it, and he got rid of the gays.' Or something. Yeah, I talked to my brother about it, and he said that that town had a lot of sin in it, not just gay people, but there were a lot of other people there. Like, whores and **** like that or something.

[Kynt]

Thx unloved!!
I thought it was funnie!!
XD


Oh and as for that passage. God doesn't hate gays. He loves all his children. He may hate the act but not the person.
She is a hypocrite. God says to love everyone as you love him. You can't just take out what parts of the bible you want.

[Caoko]

Yeah. The God Hates Gays thing was just me being OVERLY religious. Like, the kind that tries to convert you back to being straight and stuff.
Yeah! God loves everyone. Everyone.I hate what people are like, making him out to be and stuff. Like, he hates gays and other people. I'm Christian, y'know. I know God loves everybody. But some people are WAY more religious than I am, and apparently don't see that.

[unloved_forever]

Yeeah. I mean, if you don't like anything, just don't say anything about it. Leave us alone, y'know?

@ Unloved :: I hate it when people just go out of their way to say that what we're doing and what we like is wrong. It's so annoying. In another case, I was talking to this one girl who is a friend of my friend. And she's all religious. So, she made this big huge ****ing deal about me being gay. Like, she didn't mind me, but, the fact that I liked guys just erked her.
So I made a complete ass of her and made my friend tell her things. Like, you know how 'God hates Gays. There's that whole passage thing or whatever about it, and he got rid of the gays.' Or something. Yeah, I talked to my brother about it, and he said that that town had a lot of sin in it, not just gay people, but there were a lot of other people there. Like, whores and **** like that or something.
Well when my friend told everyone that I was bi, this girl started talking to me, she's a complete ***** but at that time I had no friends anymore so I was talking to her. Since then, everytime I've been alone with her, she's managed to change the conversation to talk about my sexuality. She then started asking me if I'd have sex with a girl and I was saying that it was none of her buisness and she should just shut up!
Then another time, she was talking about this singer she likes and I said you do know she's a lesbian, and now she doesn't like her anymore because she found out that she was a lesbian! That made me really annoyed!

[Caoko]

Well when my friend told everyone that I was bi, this girl started talking to me, she's a complete ***** but at that time I had no friends anymore so I was talking to her. Since then, everytime I've been alone with her, she's managed to change the conversation to talk about my sexuality. She then started asking me if I'd have sex with a girl and I was saying that it was none of her buisness and she should just shut up!
Then another time, she was talking about this singer she likes and I said you do know she's a lesbian, and now she doesn't like her anymore because she found out that she was a lesbian! That made me really annoyed!

If someone pisses me off, I just like, don't talk to them. I totally ignore them and just, glare at them when they look at me. Like this one girl. I hate her. If she looks at me, I just like, stare at her with this mean look on my face. It's amazing. <3

Ugh. Dx I hate people that do that. They hate a certain band or person because they're something that that person hates. Like, y'know, Elton John and Tatu and stuff. If you like their music, you should stick with them no matter what unless they start playing ****ty stuff or else you're totally not a true fan. At all.

[unloved_forever]

If someone pisses me off, I just like, don't talk to them. I totally ignore them and just, glare at them when they look at me. Like this one girl. I hate her. If she looks at me, I just like, stare at her with this mean look on my face. It's amazing. <3

Ugh. Dx I hate people that do that. They hate a certain band or person because they're something that that person hates. Like, y'know, Elton John and Tatu and stuff. If you like their music, you should stick with them no matter what unless they start playing ****ty stuff or else you're totally not a true fan. At all.
Yeah, that's true.
There's this one girl who I used to be friends with.
She practically hates everything about me.
She hates that I'm bi and thinks I've been brainwashed into thinking I am, she said it was discusting that I have an expander and then said that I'm trying to be someone I'm not by dying my hair and wearing eyeliner.
She makes me feel like I have to prove myself to people, when I know that I don't.

I really don't understand people!

[Caoko]

Yeah, that's true.
There's this one girl who I used to be friends with.
She practically hates everything about me.
She hates that I'm bi and thinks I've been brainwashed into thinking I am, she said it was discusting that I have an expander and then said that I'm trying to be someone I'm not by dying my hair and wearing eyeliner.
She makes me feel like I have to prove myself to people, when I know that I don't.

I really don't understand people!

People are just... stupid sometimes. Dx
Like, when they make fun of other people and stuff. I think that's just the stupidest thing to do.
But, I totally don't agree that when you make fun of someone, you're jealous of them. Like, the girl that I glare at, I make fun of her and hate her to death, and I'm not jealous of her at all.

[unloved_forever]

People are just... stupid sometimes. Dx
Like, when they make fun of other people and stuff. I think that's just the stupidest thing to do.
But, I totally don't agree that when you make fun of someone, you're jealous of them. Like, the girl that I glare at, I make fun of her and hate her to death, and I'm not jealous of her at all.
When I make fun of people it's because I do hate them.
I'm not sure why people make fun of me though, I haven't done anything to make them hate me and there's no reason for anyone to be jealous of me.

[Caoko]

When I make fun of people it's because I do hate them.
I'm not sure why people make fun of me though, I haven't done anything to make them hate me and there's no reason for anyone to be jealous of me.

Some people would probably be jealous of me because I'm friends with Paulie, and everyone loves Paulie, but he's like, against having 50 million random friends. So, he takes like, forever to actually consider someone a friend, y'know?

Yeah. I don't make fun of people because of jealousy.
xD I know why people make fun of me. I'm such a ***** sometimes~. And nerdy. Dx

[unloved_forever]

Some people would probably be jealous of me because I'm friends with Paulie, and everyone loves Paulie, but he's like, against having 50 million random friends. So, he takes like, forever to actually consider someone a friend, y'know?

Yeah. I don't make fun of people because of jealousy.
xD I know why people make fun of me. I'm such a ***** sometimes~. And nerdy. Dx
No-one is jealous of me because of my friends, everyone in my school hates me and my friends because we're different.
I think I'd hate to be liked by everyone though.

[Caoko]

No-one is jealous of me because of my friends, everyone in my school hates me and my friends because we're different.
I think I'd hate to be liked by everyone though.

People don't really hate my group of friends, because like... I don't know. Well, I'm British so they're like, "He'sBritish! Let's love him!" And, Chase is just... hot. Paulie's hyper. Jimmy's adorable. John is amazingly awesome. And Sulu's.... he's... smart...? xD

[unloved_forever]

People don't really hate my group of friends, because like... I don't know. Well, I'm British so they're like, "He'sBritish! Let's love him!" And, Chase is just... hot. Paulie's hyper. Jimmy's adorable. John is amazingly awesome. And Sulu's.... he's... smart...? xD
Well everyone in my school is like 'OMG you don't look and dress the same as everyone else, you're a freak!'

[Caoko]

Well everyone in my school is like 'OMG you don't look and dress the same as everyone else, you're a freak!'

My school is just real diverse so, no one really just, attacks you. Really.

[unloved_forever]

My school is just real diverse so, no one really just, attacks you. Really.
Wish my school was like that.
What's the age range in your school?

[Caoko]

Wish my school was like that.
What's the age range in your school?

((Like... 14-20ish. It's a high school. And I'm just basing the ages on people that I know. I know this one girl in 8th grade, she's 14, and Paulie's 20, so yeah.))

[unloved_forever]

((Like... 14-20ish. It's a high school. And I'm just basing the ages on people that I know. I know this one girl in 8th grade, she's 14, and Paulie's 20, so yeah.))
My school is from 11-16.
In my year everyone is either 15 or 16, so basically all the girls are s*uts and b*tches.

[Caoko]

My school is from 11-16.
In my year everyone is either 15 or 16, so basically all the girls are s*uts and b*tches.

Sorry about the parenthesis. xD I was RPing, and so yeah.

But uhh, yeah. I'm a senior, so we just make fun of the Freshmen. xD

[unloved_forever]

Sorry about the parenthesis. xD I was RPing, and so yeah.

But uhh, yeah. I'm a senior, so we just make fun of the Freshmen. xD
It's okay :]
I leave school in like 5 weeks and go off to college in September. I'm super excited!!

[Caoko]

It's okay :]
I leave school in like 5 weeks and go off to college in September. I'm super excited!!

Awesomness. My school ends in like... 8 weeks. And then I'll venture off to college.

[unloved_forever]

Awesomness. My school ends in like... 8 weeks. And then I'll venture off to college.
It's kinda weird because in England you leave school when you're 15/16.
The government is changing it so that anyone who is starting Senior school after this September, has to stay until they are 18.

[Caoko]

It's kinda weird because in England you leave school when you're 15/16.
The government is changing it so that anyone who is starting Senior school after this September, has to stay until they are 18.

Yeah. Here you leave when you're around 18. Which, I mysel--No I'm not. Dx I keep forgetting I had my birthday. xD Like I remember, but it's still like, not an automatic reaction.

[unloved_forever]

Yeah. Here you leave when you're around 18. Which, I mysel--No I'm not. Dx I keep forgetting I had my birthday. xD Like I remember, but it's still like, not an automatic reaction.
Yeah, I always forget how old I am after my birthday.
So you're 18?
I can't wait until my birthday!!

[Caoko]

Yeah, I always forget how old I am after my birthday.
So you're 18?
I can't wait until my birthday!!

~When is your birthday?
Nah. I'm 19.

[unloved_forever]

~When is your birthday?
Nah. I'm 19.
29th July. I'll be 16.
I wish I was 18/19 though.

[Caoko]

29th July. I'll be 16.
I wish I was 18/19 though.

Awesomeness. O: I'll be sure to try and remember that. <3
xD No you don't. You'll feel old. I swear. I feel so old right now. It's like... Pokemon and Digimon and all that jazz were like, all popular, and now Pokemon is on Boomerang. And Digimon isn't on TV no more. And neither is Sailor Moon.

[unloved_forever]

Awesomeness. O: I'll be sure to try and remember that. <3
xD No you don't. You'll feel old. I swear. I feel so old right now. It's like... Pokemon and Digimon and all that jazz were like, all popular, and now Pokemon is on Boomerang. And Digimon isn't on TV no more. And neither is Sailor Moon.
Thanks :]]
I hate feeling young though, like no-one takes me seriously, my parents don't trust me, they don't let me do anything or go anywhere and I really want to learn to drive!
In England they don't even show Pokemon on Boomerang and I was so upset when they stopped showing Sailor Moon! :(

[Caoko]

Thanks :]]
I hate feeling young though, like no-one takes me seriously, my parents don't trust me, they don't let me do anything or go anywhere and I really want to learn to drive!
In England they don't even show Pokemon on Boomerang and I was so upset when they stopped showing Sailor Moon! :(

You're welcome~.
I hate feeling old. Like, I just wanna be in the middle, y'know? Where I'm old but young.
Yeah. :[ I wish they'd still show Sailor Moon. Dx

[unloved_forever]

You're welcome~.
I hate feeling old. Like, I just wanna be in the middle, y'know? Where I'm old but young.
Yeah. :[ I wish they'd still show Sailor Moon. Dx
I loved it, it was the first anime I ever saw.
All the anime's they show now is occasionally Naruto and Totally Spies.
I want Sailor Moon back!

[Caoko]

I loved it, it was the first anime I ever saw.
All the anime's they show now is occasionally Naruto and Totally Spies.
I want Sailor Moon back!

Dx I totally miss Sailor Moon. I think it was the first one I saw, too!
I don't really like the english Naruto. It's just weird. And overly edited.
I actually like Totally Spies though. xD <3

[unloved_forever]

Dx I totally miss Sailor Moon. I think it was the first one I saw, too!
I don't really like the english Naruto. It's just weird. And overly edited.
I actually like Totally Spies though. xD <3
I only really watch Totally Spies and W.I.T.C.H.
Or the music channels. XD

[Caoko]

I only really watch Totally Spies and W.I.T.C.H.
Or the music channels. XD

I watch like, 50 million shows. xD
Have you seen the Read My Mind video? By The Killers. It's amazing~.
I've seen W.I.T.C.H. a few times. <3 I love it.

[unloved_forever]

I watch like, 50 million shows. xD
Have you seen the Read My Mind video? By The Killers. It's amazing~.
I've seen W.I.T.C.H. a few times. <3 I love it.
Yeah, I love the video, it's great :D
Another video I love at the moment is The Kill by 30 Seconds To Mars. Have you seen it?

[Caoko]

Yeah, I love the video, it's great :D
Another video I love at the moment is The Kill by 30 Seconds To Mars. Have you seen it?

<3 It's amazing.
Nope. Haven't seen it. But, I love the song. <3 And Jared Leto.

[unloved_forever]

<3 It's amazing.
Nope. Haven't seen it. But, I love the song. <3 And Jared Leto.
Yep, he's such a cutie ^__^
I've got to go now :(
Byee <3

[Caoko]

Yep, he's such a cutie ^__^
I've got to go now :(
Byee <3

Mmhmm~.
Dx Bye bye~.

[7000dominos]

Yeeah. I mean, if you don't like anything, just don't say anything about it. Leave us alone, y'know?

@ Unloved :: I hate it when people just go out of their way to say that what we're doing and what we like is wrong. It's so annoying. In another case, I was talking to this one girl who is a friend of my friend. And she's all religious. So, she made this big huge ****ing deal about me being gay. Like, she didn't mind me, but, the fact that I liked guys just erked her.
So I made a complete ass of her and made my friend tell her things. Like, you know how 'God hates Gays. There's that whole passage thing or whatever about it, and he got rid of the gays.' Or something. Yeah, I talked to my brother about it, and he said that that town had a lot of sin in it, not just gay people, but there were a lot of other people there. Like, whores and **** like that or something.

Well. It's true that homosexuality has a negative connotation in the Bible. But I know that particular story your talking about. With the lot, and his wife, and the salt, right?

We just finished our "homosexuality" section in Bible class.

If it helps any, I'm WAAAAY more liberal than most of my friends.

[Caoko]

Well. It's true that homosexuality has a negative connotation in the Bible. But I know that particular story your talking about. With the lot, and his wife, and the salt, right?

We just finished our "homosexuality" section in Bible class.

If it helps any, I'm WAAAAY more liberal than most of my friends.

I don't know which one it is. My brother talked about it.

=D

[7000dominos]

I don't know which one it is. My brother talked about it.

=D

I think it is. See, there's the people, right? Angels, actually, disguised as people, and they're staying with Lot. Lot is this like uber upstanding guy in the city (Sodom), and he's really the only one. So anyway, they all go into the city, and all the guys (literally ALL the guys who can walk) are like, "Omg! Hot men!" So they all try to rape the angels, and God is like, "Whoa. Not cool man. Ima kill you all. Take your family and go." And Lot's all like, "Wait, no. There's gotta be some good people here." And God's all like, "Fine. Find fifty and I'll spare y'all." And Lot's like, "Uhh...30?" And God's like, "Fine." And then some more men try and rape the angels and God's all like, "Dude, Lot. This is not right. Ima kill y'all. Take your family and go." And Lot's like, "Wait. There's gotta be some good people here." And then after some talking, Lot wittles it down to five good people for God to spare the city, but then there's more man-lust, so Lot has to leave, and God kills the peeps, and He's all, "Hey, Lot, don't look back, 'kay?" And Lot's like, "Okay." Except for his wife does and she gets turned into a pillar of salt.

So. That's the story. But I'm suer God doesn't sound like a seventeen year old girl from California.

Anyway. My point is He doesn't directly SAY it's bad-not in this verse anyway--but there is a definate negative connotation. Kay?

[Caoko]

I think it is. See, there's the people, right? Angels, actually, disguised as people, and they're staying with Lot. Lot is this like uber upstanding guy in the city (Sodom), and he's really the only one. So anyway, they all go into the city, and all the guys (literally ALL the guys who can walk) are like, "Omg! Hot men!" So they all try to rape the angels, and God is like, "Whoa. Not cool man. Ima kill you all. Take your family and go." And Lot's all like, "Wait, no. There's gotta be some good people here." And God's all like, "Fine. Find fifty and I'll spare y'all." And Lot's like, "Uhh...30?" And God's like, "Fine." And then some more men try and rape the angels and God's all like, "Dude, Lot. This is not right. Ima kill y'all. Take your family and go." And Lot's like, "Wait. There's gotta be some good people here." And then after some talking, Lot wittles it down to five good people for God to spare the city, but then there's more man-lust, so Lot has to leave, and God kills the peeps, and He's all, "Hey, Lot, don't look back, 'kay?" And Lot's like, "Okay." Except for his wife does and she gets turned into a pillar of salt.

So. That's the story. But I'm suer God doesn't sound like a seventeen year old girl from California.

Anyway. My point is He doesn't directly SAY it's bad-not in this verse anyway--but there is a definate negative connotation. Kay?

1. I love it. xD Just the way you say it.

2. Yeah. I get what you're goin' at.

[7000dominos]

((:mad: What?? You don't think they said "omg" in Biblical times? You are SO judgemental!))

((I don't really like oranges....))

[Caoko]

((:mad: What?? You don't think they said "omg" in Biblical times? You are SO judgemental!))

((I don't really like oranges....))

(( Dx I'msorry.))

((... Odd.. I have orange juice...))

[7000dominos]

(( Dx I'msorry.))

((... Odd.. I have orange juice...))

((NO WAY!!! We're like brain twins. O_O))

((I'm weird tonight. I think it's the lack of female interaction....))

[Caoko]

((NO WAY!!! We're like brain twins. O_O))

((I'm weird tonight. I think it's the lack of female interaction....))

((Great minds think alike. =DDD ))

(( xD Yeah? I was all emo earlier today but now I'm all giddy because I'm home. xD ))

[7000dominos]

((Ah. See, I'm NOT home. I've been the last five days with my two uncles, my three males cousins, my brother, and my dad. My aunt and my mom are here, too, but it just doesn't cancel it out...))

[Caoko]

((Ah. See, I'm NOT home. I've been the last five days with my two uncles, my three males cousins, my brother, and my dad. My aunt and my mom are here, too, but it just doesn't cancel it out...))

((Ohh. xD I see.))

[7000dominos]

((Yup. Exciting. I just wish they wouldn't ALL leave the stupid toilet seat up. When they do, I just take longer doing my hair in the morning. Yup. WE strive hard to bring all the stupid sexist cliches togther.))

[Caoko]

((Yup. Exciting. I just wish they wouldn't ALL leave the stupid toilet seat up. When they do, I just take longer doing my hair in the morning. Yup. WE strive hard to bring all the stupid sexist cliches togther.))

(( xD Alrighty then.))

[7000dominos]

((So....Anastasia.))

[Caoko]

((So....Anastasia.))

((Love~.))

[7000dominos]

((I just watched it for the first time in years recently. I got the music box for my sixteenth birthday. It makes me smile.))

[Caoko]

((I just watched it for the first time in years recently. I got the music box for my sixteenth birthday. It makes me smile.))

((Awesomeness~. I Have the soundtrack. O: And I was watching the movie, and some scenes, like when she was in that one yellow dress, like, I had this feeling that it was just SO familiar, but I couldn't figure out what it was. I don't know if I like, had a doll of her, or what.))

[7000dominos]

((She looks very Belle-esque in a lot of the scenes. They're ripping off Disney. Biters! :rolleyes: ))

[Caoko]

((She looks very Belle-esque in a lot of the scenes. They're ripping off Disney. Biters! :rolleyes: ))

(( Dx I still lurve it.))

[7000dominos]

((That dog..thing she has IS pretty d@mn cute. I mean...inhumanly cute. How can anything BE that cute?))

[Caoko]

((That dog..thing she has IS pretty d@mn cute. I mean...inhumanly cute. How can anything BE that cute?))

((I have a stuffed animal of him! And if you push his stomach his ears flap! It's amazing~. Just don't know where it is. But, he's adorable~.))

[7000dominos]

((Hahaha! I think I've seen that somewhere before......maybe I had one. Anyway. I g2g. Ttyl!))

[Caoko]

((Hahaha! I think I've seen that somewhere before......maybe I had one. Anyway. I g2g. Ttyl!))

((Bye-bye!! <33 ))

[SKITTLE-CHK07]

oK THERE AINT A THING WRONG W/ BEIIN BI/GAY.
OF CORSE IM THAT WAY!!
I SOOO <3 IT.
IM BI,
SO I GET A CHOSE OF GUYS& GIRLS!!
SO IT AINT BAD!!
DONT WORRY IT WILL ALL BE OK.
TOOTLES.
iLY!!

[shadownthecorner]

Do you think it's right for people to not be straight?
Do you think that people should be allowed to say negative things about it, such as in class discussions?
I've been in a few classes where we've been discussing sexual orientation and I got quite hurt by the things some people were saying about gay/bi people as they were being really mean.

So what are your views on any of this?

i think that you can be gay,b i,or staright as long as you dont put other people down for being another way and i dont think that people should be able to say begative things about this including calling people gay. i got called lesbian for about a year because of highlights in my hair(nothing to do with the other) and some kids in my school said that gays shouldnt be allowed in the army and that gays are mentally sick what the hell

[wiccagwen]

Do you think it's right for people to not be straight?
Do you think that people should be allowed to say negative things about it, such as in class discussions?
I've been in a few classes where we've been discussing sexual orientation and I got quite hurt by the things some people were saying about gay/bi people as they were being really mean.

So what are your views on any of this?

honey you know what i think bout them and in chase you don't remember what i said about those peeps: ignore those jackasses!!
*hugs* bi forever!! *sticks up fist in the air* yay! XD

[Tracia]

Thx unloved!!
I thought it was funnie!!
XD


Oh and as for that passage. God doesn't hate gays. He loves all his children. He may hate the act but not the person.
She is a hypocrite. God says to love everyone as you love him. You can't just take out what parts of the bible you want.

Unless they're very clear about it. Because in this matter, the bible is very clear about it.
Some passages that have been advanced as pertinant to the issue of homosexuality are, in fact, irrelevant. One is the attempted gang rape in Sodom (Gen. 19: 1-29). That was a case of ostensibly heterosexual males intent on humiliating strangers by treating them "like women," thus demasculinizing them. (This is also the case in a similar account in Judges 19-21.) Their brutal behavior has nothing to do with the problem of whether genuine love expressed between consenting persons of the same sex is legitimate or not. Likewise, Deuteronomy 23:17-18 must be pruned from the list, since it most likely refers to a heterosexual prostitute involved in Canaanite fertility rites that have infiltrated Jewish worship; the King James Version inaccurately labeled him a "sodomite."

Several other texts are ambiguous. It is not clear whether I Corinthians 6:9 and I Timothy 1:10 refer to the "passive" and "active" partners in homosexual relationships, or to homosexual and heterosexual male prostitutes. In short, it is unclear whether the issue is homosexuality alone, or promiscuity and "sex-for-hire."

Putting these texts to the side, we are left with three references, all of which unequivocally condemn homosexuality. Leviticus 18:22 states the principle: "You [masculine] shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." The second (Lev. 20:13) adds the penalty: "If a man lies with a male as a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them."

I'm too lazy to keep up any further.. i have to translate everything... :confused:

I forgot. Yes, you must love them, but love doesn't make it right.

[Tracia]

Now I have only questions.
Why when people say: Homosexual, they mean only males? Why do they use the word "lesbian" for females. They're all homosexuals!!!! Male-male or female-female is homo. I don't think there's a need to specify which is which. I can't help but think the word "jerk" when I say: She's gay, and I get a "you mean lesbian?" in response. Yes!, she is homosexual...

[unloved_forever]

Now I have only questions.
Why when people say: Homosexual, they mean only males? Why do they use the word "lesbian" for females. They're all homosexuals!!!! Male-male or female-female is homo. I don't think there's a need to specify which is which. I can't help but think the word "jerk" when I say: She's gay, and I get a "you mean lesbian?" in response. Yes!, she is homosexual...
I think it's got more to do with in which context you use it.
People tend to say she is a lesbian, rather than she is a gay/whatever. Then people don't say she is lesbian.
Sorry if that didn't make sense, i'm not functioning properly atm.

[Tracia]

Not too clear, but main idea was there.
I know where the Gay came from (as funny as it sounds), but.. lesbian....

[unloved_forever]

Not too clear, but main idea was there.
I know where the Gay came from (as funny as it sounds), but.. lesbian....
I've always wondered about this. Where did it come from?

[Tracia]

is an english word for happyness, joyful... it started to be used by homosexual to let know people they were okay with their sexuality. With time, it was used to define homosexuals.

[unloved_forever]

is an english word for happyness, joyful... it started to be used by homosexual to let know people they were okay with their sexuality. With time, it was used to define homosexuals.
I knew it is used for happiness, I just didn't realise they were connected.

[Kynt]

Unless they're very clear about it. Because in this matter, the bible is very clear about it.
Some passages that have been advanced as pertinant to the issue of homosexuality are, in fact, irrelevant. One is the attempted gang rape in Sodom (Gen. 19: 1-29). That was a case of ostensibly heterosexual males intent on humiliating strangers by treating them "like women," thus demasculinizing them. (This is also the case in a similar account in Judges 19-21.) Their brutal behavior has nothing to do with the problem of whether genuine love expressed between consenting persons of the same sex is legitimate or not. Likewise, Deuteronomy 23:17-18 must be pruned from the list, since it most likely refers to a heterosexual prostitute involved in Canaanite fertility rites that have infiltrated Jewish worship; the King James Version inaccurately labeled him a "sodomite."

Several other texts are ambiguous. It is not clear whether I Corinthians 6:9 and I Timothy 1:10 refer to the "passive" and "active" partners in homosexual relationships, or to homosexual and heterosexual male prostitutes. In short, it is unclear whether the issue is homosexuality alone, or promiscuity and "sex-for-hire."

Putting these texts to the side, we are left with three references, all of which unequivocally condemn homosexuality. Leviticus 18:22 states the principle: "You [masculine] shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." The second (Lev. 20:13) adds the penalty: "If a man lies with a male as a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them."

I'm too lazy to keep up any further.. i have to translate everything... :confused:

I forgot. Yes, you must love them, but love doesn't make it right.


I think you missunderstood when I said, "God says to love everyone as you love him."
I didn't mean that in a homosexual way. I meant to say that even the people who say, I hate fags, are being hypocrites because we are supposed to love each other like brothes and sisters in Christ. Not like I was saying the bible supported homosexuality, because I know it doesn't.

[unloved_forever]

You're all confusing me with your long and complex sentences O_o but I kinda understand what you're all saying :]

[Tracia]

I added a final sentence...

out of topic, I like your spagetti img

[Kynt]

Haha. Thanks. XD

[7000dominos]

Unless they're very clear about it. Because in this matter, the bible is very clear about it.
Some passages that have been advanced as pertinant to the issue of homosexuality are, in fact, irrelevant. One is the attempted gang rape in Sodom (Gen. 19: 1-29). That was a case of ostensibly heterosexual males intent on humiliating strangers by treating them "like women," thus demasculinizing them. (This is also the case in a similar account in Judges 19-21.) Their brutal behavior has nothing to do with the problem of whether genuine love expressed between consenting persons of the same sex is legitimate or not. Likewise, Deuteronomy 23:17-18 must be pruned from the list, since it most likely refers to a heterosexual prostitute involved in Canaanite fertility rites that have infiltrated Jewish worship; the King James Version inaccurately labeled him a "sodomite."

Several other texts are ambiguous. It is not clear whether I Corinthians 6:9 and I Timothy 1:10 refer to the "passive" and "active" partners in homosexual relationships, or to homosexual and heterosexual male prostitutes. In short, it is unclear whether the issue is homosexuality alone, or promiscuity and "sex-for-hire."

Putting these texts to the side, we are left with three references, all of which unequivocally condemn homosexuality. Leviticus 18:22 states the principle: "You [masculine] shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." The second (Lev. 20:13) adds the penalty: "If a man lies with a male as a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them."

I'm too lazy to keep up any further.. i have to translate everything... :confused:

I forgot. Yes, you must love them, but love doesn't make it right.


((O_O))

((I really don't even think I have to say anything anymore...ever. Can I just say "See Tracia"? Save time...))

[XoColorful-ChickoX]

OK. IM BISEXUAL GIRL FROM ALABAMA. & THERE AINT A DAMN THING WRONG WITH IT!! I THINK U SOULD ASK URSELF INSTEAD OF EVERYONE ELSE. BECAUSE ITS UR LIFE NOT THEIRS!! BUT THE ONLY PROBLEM I GOT IS THAT IM IN LOVE WITH A GIRL & HER GF IS CHEATIN ON HER WITH TWO OTHER PPL & SHE DONT KNOW IT. BUT MY FRIEND JUST ASK UR SELF. KK??
TOOTLE-LOO:rolleyes:

[Kynt]

AGH! From AL???
What part!!?
Me and my best friend on here are from AL!
XD
Small world.

[XoColorful-ChickoX]

AGH! From AL???
What part!!?
Me and my best friend on here are from AL!
XD
Small world.
hamilton!![[marion county]] you??

[morgan_1216]

i think that love is one of the greatest things for a person to feel (tho it can be painful) and if you are lucky to find love it shouldnt matter who its with. i dont t hink being anything other than straight is wrong. i do not think that is the way things were intended to be, given that only a man and woman can reproduce. but i dont think its wrong. and as far as those class discussions go: every one has a right to an opinion BUT they should be able to express it with out being rude or hurtful. My mom used to be friends with a gay guy who was over at our house all the time when i was younger and just like year i found out she was gay when i over heard her on the phone. otherwise i woulda never known. gays bi's les. trany they're all people and deserve the same respect every one else gets.

[ellie can vogue]

I'm pansexual :)

[Caoko]

I'm pansexual :)

Dx What?

<<Insert 10 Characters Here>>

[Tracia]

Human beings, by nature must be, "pansexual" (from the Greek, Pan = all) a complete sexual person. We all possess various sexual possibilities generally classified as heterosexual, homosexual, bi-sexual, autoerotic, fetishist, sado-masochistic, etc. These tendencies in our nature can come out at any time, according to the development of each individual. Children are born polimorphoperverse; the curiosity of discovery leads them to play with their mothers, touch their genitals, masturbate and investigate their excretia. Later, as they develop, they play games of "doctor" as they explore the bodies and functions of their friends. All this is perfectly natural.
During puberty their ambivalence is natural and undeniable as they adapt to life as an adult.
The term "pansexuality" exists already, but with a different meaning to that which I apply to it, indicating the concept to which sexual instinct is the basis of all human behaviour (Freud).
It is important not to repress any of our pansexuality and to live it
freely, using good sense. The repression and banning of natural instinct creates frustration, often resulting in antisocial and violent behaviour.

Definition of pansexuality:
Pansexuality includes all kinds of sexuality that can exist in a human
being, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transexual, transgender, heterosexual,
tendencies that may prevail either permanently or occasionally.
The word Pansexualism is explained by Professor Haeberle in his Critical Dictionary in the following way:
"Pansexualism. (sometimes also "pansexuality". From gr. "pan": all) All-embracing sexual love. An attitude or a philosophy which is based on the belief that the human sexual potential can and should be directed towards everybody and everything. At one time, the term "pansexualism" was also used for the theory that all human behavior is somehow sexually motivated. This theory is no longer considered valid. Today the terms "pansexualism" and "pansexuality" are often employed by certain advocates of sexual liberation who want to convey the idea that the present sexual and gender roles of men and women are too confining, and that, therefore, an all-embracing sexuality should accept the entire spectrum of sexual orientations and deliberately ignore all other conventional distinctions."

The Theory of Pansexuality is best understood not in absolute but in relative terms, just as the biological sex and the gender roles.
From the observation of human sexual behaviour we learned that femaleness and maleness, femininity and masculinity, homosexuality and heterosexuality are a question of degree.
Today people talk too easily about hetero-, homo-, and bi-sexuality without realizing the overlapping qualities of the different categories.

Info taken from Peter Broom (http://digilander.libero.it/pansexuality/Inglese/intro-italiano-Frameset-1.htm). Visit if you'd like to read more.

[Caoko]

Oh. o_o;; Alrighty then.

[Tracia]

I cut it down and signed the most important part of it.

[unloved_forever]

Human beings, by nature must be, "pansexual" (from the Greek, Pan = all) a complete sexual person. We all possess various sexual possibilities generally classified as heterosexual, homosexual, bi-sexual, autoerotic, fetishist, sado-masochistic, etc. These tendencies in our nature can come out at any time, according to the development of each individual. Children are born polimorphoperverse; the curiosity of discovery leads them to play with their mothers, touch their genitals, masturbate and investigate their excretia. Later, as they develop, they play games of "doctor" as they explore the bodies and functions of their friends. All this is perfectly natural.
During puberty their ambivalence is natural and undeniable as they adapt to life as an adult.
The term "pansexuality" exists already, but with a different meaning to that which I apply to it, indicating the concept to which sexual instinct is the basis of all human behaviour (Freud).
It is important not to repress any of our pansexuality and to live it
freely, using good sense. The repression and banning of natural instinct creates frustration, often resulting in antisocial and violent behaviour.

Definition of pansexuality:
Pansexuality includes all kinds of sexuality that can exist in a human
being, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transexual, transgender, heterosexual,
tendencies that may prevail either permanently or occasionally.
The word Pansexualism is explained by Professor Haeberle in his Critical Dictionary in the following way:
"Pansexualism. (sometimes also "pansexuality". From gr. "pan": all) All-embracing sexual love. An attitude or a philosophy which is based on the belief that the human sexual potential can and should be directed towards everybody and everything. At one time, the term "pansexualism" was also used for the theory that all human behavior is somehow sexually motivated. This theory is no longer considered valid. Today the terms "pansexualism" and "pansexuality" are often employed by certain advocates of sexual liberation who want to convey the idea that the present sexual and gender roles of men and women are too confining, and that, therefore, an all-embracing sexuality should accept the entire spectrum of sexual orientations and deliberately ignore all other conventional distinctions."

The Theory of Pansexuality is best understood not in absolute but in relative terms, just as the biological sex and the gender roles.
From the observation of human sexual behaviour we learned that femaleness and maleness, femininity and masculinity, homosexuality and heterosexuality are a question of degree.
Today people talk too easily about hetero-, homo-, and bi-sexuality without realizing the overlapping qualities of the different categories.

Info taken from Peter Broom (http://digilander.libero.it/pansexuality/Inglese/intro-italiano-Frameset-1.htm). Visit if you'd like to read more.
Pansexual...that was really confusing.
Surely you can't be gay and hetrosexual? O_o

[Tracia]

as i see it, pansexualism goes for the idea of all humans being the same gender, no matter your genitalia, but what's in your head. Brain is considered asexual, therefore, we have the capacity to love no matter what.

[unloved_forever]

as i see it, pansexualism goes for the idea of all humans being the same gender, no matter your genitalia, but what's in your head. Brain is considered asexual, therefore, we have the capacity to love no matter what.
Oh right, I understand now. Thanks.

[dead sephiroth]

wow yall r smart

[unloved_forever]

wow yall r smart
Tracia is, i'm not.

[dead sephiroth]

o kk so how old r u 2

[7000dominos]

wow yall r smart

No. Just opinionated and informed.


No offense, Tracia. She is, in my personal opinion, brilliant in the way she explains herself. She makes sure she knows what she's talking about before she responds, and is, while not always in agreement with me, NOT a closed-minded, biased, unfounded idiot.


And I respect that.

[dead sephiroth]

:griningmonkey XD kk kewl

[unloved_forever]

o kk so how old r u 2
I'm fifteen.

[dead sephiroth]

im 16 makin 17 on june 25th

[nineteen]

oh good! another gay thread!

is it right ot be gay:

heyessssssssss! (you won't get that unless you watch little britian)

sorry i'm not in a serious mood.

[unloved_forever]

oh good! another gay thread!

is it right ot be gay:

heyessssssssss! (you won't get that unless you watch little britian)

sorry i'm not in a serious mood.
Please don't say 'oh good! another gay thread!'
I made this one first and it isn't a 'gay thread'. It's a thread to discuss people being gay, bi and straight.

[nineteen]

oh, ok. sorry to offend in such a juvinile way. i would have given prorper comment, just that this thread is too long for me to read it all.

very sorry.

[unloved_forever]

oh, ok. sorry to offend in such a juvinile way. i would have given prorper comment, just that this thread is too long for me to read it all.

very sorry.
I wasn't getting at you because of your comment on this topic. Just the first comment you made on it being 'another gay thread'.

[nineteen]

Do you think it's right for people to not be straight?
Do you think that people should be allowed to say negative things about it, such as in class discussions?
I've been in a few classes where we've been discussing sexual orientation and I got quite hurt by the things some people were saying about gay/bi people as they were being really mean.

So what are your views on any of this?

ye i belive it's ok to have alternitve orenatition. you can be anything you want and i won't bat and eye lid. as long as you don't hurt anyone. which is why i don't like pedophillia, even though you are born with that deire as well i cannot advocate it because it hurts people. but now, as a a scociety, we allow people to express almost any desire they please, to me this is good. there was a time, not so long ago, when it would have been a crime to be gay.

scocetiy is opressive. stright people used to be largely homophobic, though not today. it is this stigma that remins today and which makes you ask these questions. rasisim is similar, people started seem other races as "not human" beacuse it was easier to sell them as slaves if they didn't have feelings. these things stay with us as a scociety. in an ideal world, to me, you wouldn't ask things like this becuase it would be taken for granted that you have freedom to be what you want, so long as you hurt no one.

yes, you should be allowed to say negitive things about it. that's the very same right as you have to say postivie things about it. people can say what they want about anything. look at the Phelps, shocking horrific people, who i'd happily hang draw and quarter. but they can sya whatever they want, we all can. it's fiar wither you like what's being said or not.

ye, it's annoying sometimes, but anyone who slags you for it isn't worth your time. trust me. homophobia, it's bad in scotland. people spread it to thier children, people round here call anything that's bad or unusual "Gay" and in america i know a common insult is "Fag" and ye, it seems harmless, but in reality it spreas homophobia.

that's the nature of, we just have to live with it.

[unloved_forever]

ye i belive it's ok to have alternitve orenatition. you can be anything you want and i won't bat and eye lid. as long as you don't hurt anyone. which is why i don't like pedophillia, even though you are born with that deire as well i cannot advocate it because it hurts people. but now, as a a scociety, we allow people to express almost any desire they please, to me this is good. there was a time, not so long ago, when it would have been a crime to be gay.

scocetiy is opressive. stright people used to be largely homophobic, though not today. it is this stigma that remins today and which makes you ask these questions. rasisim is similar, people started seem other races as "not human" beacuse it was easier to sell them as slaves if they didn't have feelings. these things stay with us as a scociety. in an ideal world, to me, you wouldn't ask things like this becuase it would be taken for granted that you have freedom to be what you want, so long as you hurt no one.

yes, you should be allowed to say negitive things about it. that's the very same right as you have to say postivie things about it. people can say what they want about anything. look at the Phelps, shocking horrific people, who i'd happily hang draw and quarter. but they can sya whatever they want, we all can. it's fiar wither you like what's being said or not.

ye, it's annoying sometimes, but anyone who slags you for it isn't worth your time. trust me. homophobia, it's bad in scotland. people spread it to thier children, people round here call anything that's bad or unusual "Gay" and in america i know a common insult is "Fag" and ye, it seems harmless, but in reality it spreas homophobia.

that's the nature of, we just have to live with it.
I agree with the first paragraph.
The second, I disagree with. Homosexuality is accepted more into society now than it used to be, however people are more homophobic now, it hasn't decreased.
Third, no you shouldn't be allowed to say negative things. In your secong paragraph you said that being homophobic was the same as being racist which I agree with but then you've just said that people should be allowed to make homophobic comments in society but they're not allowed to make racist ones.
Finally, I totally agree.

[Heartfelt Winter.]

Do you think it's right for people to not be straight?
Do you think that people should be allowed to say negative things about it, such as in class discussions?
I've been in a few classes where we've been discussing sexual orientation and I got quite hurt by the things some people were saying about gay/bi people as they were being really mean.

So what are your views on any of this?
I believe that even if people don't have the same views as us they shouldn't be suppressed I mean look at what happened when African American rights were suppressed. Do we really need something like that to happen again? No. Do we all have to be all happy and peaceful, not really. Should we allow people to let their hearts lead them? Most definately, I mean there are lots of nice people who are not straight, like Nickoli, she's one of our moderators, and she's one of the nicest people I've ever met! I really think people talking badly about other people because of who they choose to love is like picking on someone because they don't have a brand new car every three years.

[unloved_forever]

I believe that even if people don't have the same views as us they shouldn't be suppressed I mean look at what happened when African American rights were suppressed. Do we really need something like that to happen again? No. Do we all have to be all happy and peaceful, not really. Should we allow people to let their hearts lead them? Most definately, I mean there are lots of nice people who are not straight, like Nickoli, she's one of our moderators, and she's one of the nicest people I've ever met! I really think people talking badly about other people because of who they choose to love is like picking on someone because they don't have a brand new car every three years.
Exactly, that's true.
I really hate it when straight guys say that lesbians are okay but gay guys shouldn't be allowed!

[nineteen]

Exactly, that's true.
I really hate it when straight guys say that lesbians are okay but gay guys shouldn't be allowed!
ye that pisses me off to. some stright guys are incedibly hurtful and arrogant when it comes to that. however... not all.

but the thing is that you CAN say almost anything you like. so can say rasict, hateful things and preach them on the street, but you won't be done unless you accully 1) say things that aren't ture (ie slander) 2) cause someone physical harm.

look at the phelps, as i said. i'd happly shoot them all (... in the feet) but they are free to say whatever they want and i just have to live with that. if i took away thier right to say what they want, i'd have to take away my right to complain about them. freedom of speech.

moreover, i'd agree with you in that there's a lot of homophobia about, even amoung girls (which surprised me). it does make me shy to talk to people about it, so i just keep people in the dark mostly, esp guys i know. like i said, it's just the type of thing that gets passed down throught generations.

i've known one person for a LONG time and recently i haerd him spouting the most hateful racist slander. i couldn't belive it, i never knew he was such an awful bigot. but he's ok with me accually fancying him! god knows how he justifies it.

bigotry is connected with ignorance, most homepoboes will only know thier enemy by steryotype.

[unloved_forever]

ye that pisses me off to. some stright guys are incedibly hurtful and arrogant when it comes to that. however... not all.

but the thing is that you CAN say almost anything you like. so can say rasict, hateful things and preach them on the street, but you won't be done unless you accully 1) say things that aren't ture (ie slander) 2) cause someone physical harm.

look at the phelps, as i said. i'd happly shoot them all (... in the feet) but they are free to say whatever they want and i just have to live with that. if i took away thier right to say what they want, i'd have to take away my right to complain about them. freedom of speech.

moreover, i'd agree with you in that there's a lot of homophobia about, even amoung girls (which surprised me). it does make me shy to talk to people about it, so i just keep people in the dark mostly, esp guys i know. like i said, it's just the type of thing that gets passed down throught generations.

i've known one person for a LONG time and recently i haerd him spouting the most hateful racist slander. i couldn't belive it, i never knew he was such an awful bigot. but he's ok with me accually fancying him! god knows how he justifies it.

bigotry is connected with ignorance, most homepoboes will only know thier enemy by steryotype.
I'm not sure if we're talking about different things here, but you are not allowed to be racist!
If a student makes a racist comment in a class with a student of a different race in it, they will get punished because it is socially not allowed.
However if someone makes a homophobic comment, in a class with someone who is gay/bi in it, nothing will be done about it.
I've experienced this and it's not nice, it made me so angry.

Does this happen just because you can't tell someones orientation just by looking at them, so people think that they can say what they want, possibly. It shouldn't be different though.

[nineteen]

well i if i say in class:
"James is black."
to me that's not racist. but if i said:
"Blacks eat ****"
then i'm in trouble, cause that's untrue. therefore it is rasicts.

if i said:
"James is gay"
that may or may not be true, you can't tell by looking. but here it would be seen as as insult, reguarless of if it were true or not. so you have a point there. people associte being gay with bad things usually. like i said, it's just passed down to children who are too young to understand and they keep doing it.

if you think someone should be punished, then say so... sexuallity is a touchy subject for most teachers i'm sure. most people don't think about it and live in a happy world where everyone is stright. so complain...

[unloved_forever]

well i if i say in class:
"James is black."
to me that's not racist. but if i said:
"Blacks eat ****"
then i'm in trouble, cause that's untrue. therefore it is rasicts.

if i said:
"James is gay"
that may or may not be true, you can't tell by looking. but here it would be seen as as insult, reguarless of if it were true or not. so you have a point there. people associte being gay with bad things usually. like i said, it's just passed down to children who are too young to understand and they keep doing it.

if you think someone should be punished, then say so... sexuallity is a touchy subject for most teachers i'm sure. most people don't think about it and live in a happy world where everyone is stright. so complain...
Well where I am, saying 'James is black' in a class would be seen as racist and you would get wrong for it.
If people make comments about someones sexuality, they are usualy negative comments. What I was saying is that should you be allowed to say 'James is gay' or 'I don't like gays' just because you can't tell if a person is gay. you might be offending someone, you might not but just because you can't tell, doesn't mean you can still say it.

[nineteen]

it's only offensive to say someone is balck because the UN made it that way. people used to call them "niggers" and they were happy with that. things that are offensive change. to me "Black" shouldn't be offensive, but i can see why it is. around here people will say "that's black, or this is black". but if you look at it that way anything can be made offensive.

i don't know, this is a headbanger. sex and sexuallity are still somthing people are wary to talk about; it's still a bit taboo in certin places.

i don't want to argue with you, you're right; it is hurtful. it's cruel if people are delibertly attacking your sexuallity, but if it annoys you all you can do is complain about it. but people get attcked for everything... people can be cruel.

can you imagine:
"Mr Smith, Jimmy called me gay!"
"and... are you gay?"

that heppend to a friend, the guy was a bastard. and of course he didn't say "yes", cause that would have opened him up for more slagging. and of course because he said "no" the teachter didn't bother one wit.

[unloved_forever]

it's only offensive to say someone is balck because the UN made it that way. people used to call them "niggers" and they were happy with that. things that are offensive change. to me "Black" shouldn't be offensive, but i can see why it is. around here people will say "that's black, or this is black". but if you look at it that way anything can be made offensive.

i don't know, this is a headbanger. sex and sexuallity are still somthing people are wary to talk about; it's still a bit taboo in certin places.

i don't want to argue with you, you're right; it is hurtful. it's cruel if people are delibertly attacking your sexuallity, but if it annoys you all you can do is complain about it. but people get attcked for everything... people can be cruel.

can you imagine:
"Mr Smith, Jimmy called me gay!"
"and... are you gay?"

that heppend to a friend, the guy was a bastard. and of course he didn't say "yes", cause that would have opened him up for more slagging. and of course because he said "no" the teachter didn't bother one wit.
Well I was in a clas where we discuss current issues and things. We were doing about homosexuality.
The teacher went to the board and asked people to say what cam to their head when she said homosexual. I don't even want to repeat what people were saying it was awful. Then the teacher mention bisexual and it was even worse. Some girl said that it was greedy, she knew that someone in the class was bisexual but because no-one else could tell, she could say whatever she wanted to.
Then later we watched a video about africans, people in the class were saying offensive things, the teacher stopped them and told them off, someone even got sent out for saying something racist.

Do you see what I'm saying about the way it's different when people are being offensive about someones sexuality then when they are about their race.

[nineteen]

wow, you're lucky! in my sex ed classes it was assumed everyone was srtight. quite annoying, the guy who was taking it just went on about his girlfriend all the time and i was getting quite annoyed at him. not even an "it's ok to be gay, it's healty to be curious." you know even if he didn't mean it i'd have been happy.

but yes, from that story you have a very valid point. but as i said, your teacher probobly was just being an arse, or too embarrased to say anything. i know lots of people hate teaching sex ed. but still complain. but i can understand if you're intersetied in keeping it qute and "fitting in" with the rest of them.

but ye, quite shocking.

[dead sephiroth]

i went through sex ed when i was in the 7th grade now im in 9th my teacher didnt assume everyone was straight she knew some kids were bi gay or lez but she didnt descrimanate nor did the kids im straight but a friend of mine is lez she gets lots of nagging from the straight guys cuz she wont go out wit them cuz she has a gf

[unloved_forever]

wow, you're lucky! in my sex ed classes it was assumed everyone was srtight. quite annoying, the guy who was taking it just went on about his girlfriend all the time and i was getting quite annoyed at him. not even an "it's ok to be gay, it's healty to be curious." you know even if he didn't mean it i'd have been happy.

but yes, from that story you have a very valid point. but as i said, your teacher probobly was just being an arse, or too embarrased to say anything. i know lots of people hate teaching sex ed. but still complain. but i can understand if you're intersetied in keeping it qute and "fitting in" with the rest of them.

but ye, quite shocking.
No, the teacher wasn't embarrased or anything, the class gets along great with her.
What I'm saying is that just because you can't tell someones sexuality, doesn't make it right to say something about it.
Also I'm not lucky either. To have to sit in a classroom with everyone in the class (minus me and my friend) throwing around insults about people being bi when at that point I was almost certain that I was bi. And then having a girl who knew that I was, saying one of the worst things ever and then giving me a sly look after she said it. That's not lucky. It would have been luckier if the whole class knew my sexuality because they might have thought twice about what insults they shouted.